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Today the Latvian coins of my dreams arrived from Latvia! (so you know they'll be good!) I am working on the Latvian circulation type-set and now it seems like I might even manage to finish it one day. We'll start with the only damaged coin of the lot:  This looks like it was buried somewhere. I am eager to try my ultrasonic cleaner on it, if the results are interesting I'll post them.  The 10-santīmu coin is about the size of an American dime.  But because they never had a precious metal content that would necessitate a proportional size difference (like how the half dollar weighs twice as much as a quarter dollar), the 20-santīmu coin is only a bit bigger, and the 50 santīmu coin is only the size of an American quarter. This is pretty smart - no country should have coins with proportional weight anymore if they have no gold or silver content.  Speaking of 50 santīmu, here it is! The 5-lati coin gets all the credit for being a great-looking prewar Latvian coin, but the lesser-known 50 santīmu coin features the same woman as on the 5-lati coin and is really equally beautiful (both were modeled by Zelma Brauere, whose likeness also appeared on the 10 and 20 latu banknotes of the era). In fact, her head is in the same position on both coins, but while the 5-lati coin depicts only her head, the 50-santimu coin depicts an entire scene, where she is steering a small sailboat. So could it be that both coins depict the same moment? In the interests of science, I have superimposed the two images in an animated format so we can easily compare the details.  THE VERDICT: Although it is unmistakably the same woman in the same pose, her hair and headband are slightly different. And on the 5-lati coin, she carries a sheaf of wheat over her shoulder - hardly practical for steering a ship. So most likely, she fixed up her hair a bit before posing with the wheat once she was safely ashore.  There were plans to update Latvia's coinage designs by the early 1940s - including a 5-lati coin featuring not the Latvian Maiden but the face of Latvia's authoritarian leader, Kārlis Ulmanis. All three Baltic nations had abandoned democracy before 1939 (although they still achieved high economic growth under these leaders). But before anything really bad could happen, something much worse happened: the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact that famously divided Poland between Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union also gave Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania to the Soviet Union, an occupation that lasted from 1940 until 1991. So why do I mention all this? The only coins ever made for this reform were the 1 santīms and 2 santīmi coins, dated 1937, 1938, 1939. Krause simply states "Most were never placed into circulation". This is because of the Soviet annexation (which formally happened in 1941).  They also look quite a bit less ornate and fancy than their previous iterations. Maybe they were trying to emulate other simplistic, no-nonsense European coins of the period, which is a shame because the interwar era was responsible for some of the greatest circulation coins of all time. (check out Czechoslovakia: every design's a winner) With this, I only have a few coins left to complete my First Latvian Republic type set! I just need a 2-santīmi coin of the "old" style, a silver 1-lats coin, and maybe a less damaged old-style 1-santīms coin. Wow!  Here's those coins in the modern era - no, they are not the same size as the pre-war ones. It's very interesting to see what is basically the same design rendered in three different artistic styles over the years - from ornate to simple to stylized.  Another coin for my Second Latvian Republic type set.  And the modern 50-santīmu coin, too. This is almost exactly the size of the American dime, with a reeded edge, yet its face value is equal to about 1 U.S. dollar. I wonder if they complained about having their pockets weighed down by high-value coins?  A commemorative 1-lats coin! There are a lot of these, and since 1 lats is about $2, the full set would be expensive even from circulation. This commemorates Latvia's accession to the European Union - or the Eiropas Savienība (hence the acronym "ES" and not "EU"). Latvia was one of 10 new countries to join the E.U. on May 1, 2004, the largest territorial expansion of the E.U. yet, hence the commemorative coin. 10 years later they adopted the euro. Can you guess what I have to post next?         The full Latvian euro set! Yes!! These images are all correctly proportional to each other. Once again, the woman from the 5-lati coin makes an appearance. But my work is never done - Latvia has already announced not one but two upcoming commemorative 2-euro coins: Rīga, the 2014 European Capital of Culture, and in 2015 one to commemorate the Latvian presidency of the European Union. But for now, I have them all. I'm really glad to enlarge my Latvian collection by so much.
Edited by nalaberong 07/11/2014 12:26 am
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Great set of Latvian coinage with the words to back it up. 
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Valued Member
United States
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 with jbuck, thanks for all the information along with the pictures! That was really cool and informative!
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Pillar of the Community
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Great history lesson, thanks!
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Pillar of the Community
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Today I spent $78 on coins  But it was worth it! So I got to look through some world silver before anyone else did and I got a very good deal.  Let's start with the big one - priced at just $2.50! This is a German colonial coin from German East Africa (Deutsch Ostafrika). Germany's colonial empire was taken away in 1918, and they were late to the party so they only got a little bit of Africa, a bit of New Guinea, and some tiny Pacific islands. So German colonial currency is quite hard to find in any condition (my previous GEA coin was a corroded copper mess). Even better, this one has some lovely rainbow toning, and it features the Kaiser in his signature silly eagle hat (on domestic Prussian coins, he was bareheaded). This was a real winning find.  There were also old British coins! Here's my third 1797 cartwheel penny, the copper coin that weighed a full ounce (whatever an "ounce" is). This one's worn, but it's not cleaned, and it's not holed, so it's better than my other two.  Here's a dirty George IV shilling. Notice the floral symbolism at the bottom - the rose for the English royal family, the thistle for Scotland, and the shamrock for Ireland, all together. It's almost like they belonged to some kind of "united kingdom".  And a worn George III crown, everyone's least favourite George. This portrait shows an awful lot of shoulder. It's always nice to buy these old worn coins for cheap!  Here's a South African Republic half-crown. The South African arms here are pretty nice.  There were three British 1910 silver coins in exceptional condition. Those were a very good pick.  Check it out! The Edward VII florin has a really outstanding nice design. But what's most interesting is that Walking Britannia here pre-dates the American Walking Liberty by 14 whole years! Coincidence?!  And a half-crown.  From the very last years of the Ottoman Empire, a large silver coin - 20 kurush, 1917. I have a much more worn and older one of these so it's nice to see a good-looking specimen. One of the dies has nearly had it - there aren't any really major cracks, but there are a ton of little cracks. Coins struck in wartime (in this case, the First World War) usually have worse quality control.  More colonial silver from Africa from a more developed colonial power. It was struck for use in Portuguese Mozambique. The interwar Portuguese coins all looked quite modern.  Finally, three unmarked silver picks... 75 cents each from the junk bin! The design with the scales does look really cool, it's lucky that the Mexican mint re-used it on these affordable coins because the older pesos and 50 and 25 centavo coins that it debuted on are all pretty hard to get. This went pretty well. It took 1 and a half hours to get there by bike (it's summertime!) and it's good that it was worth it!
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That German colonial is very nice! The others are nice as well, but that one is a real nice find. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I like the 1910 British set!
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Over the last couple days I have read over the entire thread and I am very impressed. You must have a massive collection. Keep posting, I am enjoying it very much.
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United Kingdom
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The standing Britannia design on the florin is a wonderful piece of work.
It was engraved by Georges William de Saulles who was influenced by the work of French engraver Roty. Roty had previously designed the French Sow ('La Semeuse') so when you ask is it a coincidence that the walking Liberty coins came later it isn't - I think Roty's work inspired both pieces.
Incidentally the bullhead George III is one of my favourite!
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Today I spent an even $20 which was kind of lucky (there was no bargaining or lumped-together amounts). This time, banknotes are the focus of the post because they were underpriced and interesting. 4 of them are from World War II.  I'll start with maybe the highest-valued one according to the catalog - a Ukrainian banknote from 1942. Many more countries issue notes than do coins - coins cost actual money to produce, while banknotes are cheap and easy. So for revolutionary and unrecognized and war-torn states, you get way more banknotes than you do coins because any idiot with a printer and a government can make them official. Case in point: Ukraine. Ukraine in its modern form didn't issue coins until 1992, but banknotes were issued three times in the last century: once during the turbulent times of the Russian Revolution (Ukraine joined the Soviet Union a couple years later, ending that escapade), once during the Nazi German invasion of the Soviet Union, and finally during modern independence to the modern day. As the Nazis thrashed Europe they had a habit of dismembering the countries they invaded. Yugoslavia became Serbia, Croatia and more, Czechoslovakia was split into Bohemia and Moravia and Slovakia, and the occupied parts of the USSR were given "independence" in name only. So Ukraine existed for brief moments in the 1940s as Reichskommissariat Ukraine, hence this Ukrainian banknote, and hence the little swastika-carrying Reichs-eagle to the woman's lower left.  In 1944, Denmark was also occupied by Nazi Germany, but this note doesn't have a single symbol of the occupation (in fact... it's a bit bland overall). Why? This note was actually produced clandestinely by National Bank employees, and was only made legal tender after liberation in 1945. So the 1944 notes are not as common - this was a lucky find. The series continued until 1950. After the war, it was declared that all previous notes would be demonetized, and if you exchanged more than a certain amount you would be put under special scrutiny by the tax-men. This was to catch war profiteers. So this is the first of a new series of Danish krone.  Once the Allies caught up they had to print their own occupation notes, because the introduction of soldiers spending their salaries in American dollars all over the place would make the American dollar plentiful and preferable to the local currency, meaning a lack of trust in the domestic economy and big economic pains after liberation. Since no government existed to print a local currency, the Americans had to do it themselves. 1 occupation lira was worth 1 cent U.S.  It was the same story in Germany. I have a pretty beat-up half mark, but this looks a lot better (and it's worth 100 times more). Unlike the mostly-English Italian note (which even featured the American Constitution's Four Freedoms in English on the back in eye-watering pale blue), the German notes are entirely in German.  Back in time to 1917, the Russian Revolution. This gave rise to endless series of provisional notes issued by all factions to fill the need for money in the world's largest country. This note is in nice condition, it's colourful, and it's huge. But wait!! If you look closely, there are swastikas behind the double-headed eagle and some of the inscriptions!! In 1917, no less! As far as I know, back then, it was just a pretty pattern (and one that saw much use in the Baltic region).  Finally, a colourful Chinese note, but not worth much today. If you thought Russia was bad for having tons and tons of provisional and inflationary and reform notes, China is so much worse.  What are these round metal things? Oh, right, this post isn't just about banknotes. Here's a 1799 halfpenny, really worn out but still recognizable.   I was lucky to get two .500 sixpences for 75 cents, below their silver value. The first one looks a bit weird - I don't know why all the slightly off-putting small British silvers end up in Canada, but I have at least 5 that are damaged in mysterious ways.  Another Churchill crown. The fatal flaw - these coins are really big so if you want to exchange them you'll pay a ton for postage.  An Argentine commemorative, 150 years of independence. The series of multi-sided Argentine coins from this era are all pretty neat and this is a fairly unorthodox way of depicting a building on a coin.  Here's a shiny coin from Belize. Unlike other countries which change their portrait of the Queen as she gets older, this same portrait of her is being used in Belize to this day.  An Australian commemorative - also heavy and difficult to ship. The Commonwealth Games are important! How else can we play sports without the Americans beating us at them?  Finally, a modern French coin using a design that's now about a hundred years old. Since the silver 1-franc coins from before the First World War and the nickel 1-franc coins from 1960 and afterwards have identical designs, I always check the date when I pick them out of junk bins. No luck yet, but one day...
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Quote: What are these round metal things? Oh, right, this post isn't just about banknotes. Whew! I was getting worried. Notes are cool, but I really want to see the coins. Nice set! 
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United States
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Great finds! As always I love reading all the information about each coin (and in this case, each banknote  )! Are the oldest coins you find (like the 1799) tucked away in world coin bins?
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I like Francs, too. How do you feel about the Churchill crown? HUGE eh? I think there's too much open field on the coin. I wonder when the grade starts to matter on this honker that litters "junk" bins all over.
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Here's a short update. Recently I went to the Edmonton Heritage Festival, our largest festival of the year - attendance was about 350,000 over three days for a city of just under 1,000,000 and there is absolutely NO public parking. So it also encourages people to walk, ride, or take public transit, which is nice. I wasn't expecting to find any good souvenirs at the booths, but amazingly, the Cuban Pavilion had a few notes and stamps! Even more amazingly, they weren't vastly overpriced!! So $2 got me this crisp 3-peso note, to compliment my 3-peso coin (which also features El Che's face).   Gee, I really like that portrait of that guy's face... I wonder if there's some way to get a T-shirt with that on it? 
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Recently I visited "Alberta's other city" and bought plenty of coins, here's 14 picks from a 50-cent bin at a flea market stall.  One new country - Malawi! My African map is filling in more and more. This coin has segmented reeding, which would catch on more in a few decades.  I don't know what this is but whatever.  The world's worst American 2-cent coin, just barely from 1864. But hey, 50 cents!  I got this American $5 replica because I thought "even if the odds are almost nothing that it's actually gold covered with black it's still an OK deal". It's probably not gold. Still!  Another very dark coin, an early Mexican centavo from 1913.  And a nicer 2-centavo coin. The larger denominations of early Mexican copper (with the big numerical denominations like you see) are not so easy to find.  Here's a shiny bon pour from France.  This is one of the more elusive Third Reich coins - the lower denominations of reichpfennig in zinc and copper and brass are easy to find, but the 50 reichpfennig (struck in nickel, then aluminum during the war) is a bit rarer. So is zinc cheaper than aluminum?  A nice Dutch 2.5 cent coin, a strange denomination. There are two types of 1941 2.5 cents - copper, and a smaller Nazi occupation zinc with a different design. However, the zinc version proved wildly unpopular, because - there was no 0.5 cent coin to make change with it. So it was a one-year type and is the most difficult to find of all the types of Dutch occupation zinc. (Imagine the quarter without the nickel or penny). I have one of those to post soon as well! Apparently, these copper coins are actually easier to find in Canada than the Netherlands in good condition - the ones brought back by Canadian soldiers stayed shiny, while the ones that stayed behind circulated during and after the war.  Another Hungarian coin with the old communist crest.  This Finnish coin probably circulated for a while - there was a reform to take 2 zeros off the currency, so what was once 20 markka became 20 pennia. The same situation arose in France at about the same time - the old coins circulated along the reformed coins, as they were intentionally made the same size. Even decades later in France, you would sometimes receive the old aluminum francs instead of centimes. The Finnish 20-pennia coin bore exactly the same tree design on one side, the only difference being the word below the tree. However, the Finnish lion on the other side did get an overhaul.  A Sudanian coin - unfortunately it's been scratched.  And an Uruguayan coin, featuring their national hero Artigas. Uruguay's a bit of an odd one on the map (sandwiched between the two big South American countries, Brazil and Argentina) and I have always liked their coins.  Finally, a Cuban tourist issue, fairly easy to find in Canada. But this is my first INTUR 25-centavo coin.
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