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My Coins Always Look Like They're Made Of Silly Putty

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 Posted 10/25/2013  12:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chancellor Sutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Dave ... for the in depth response. I really appreciate your time and willingness to help. Time is too precious to some (most) folks, and I appreciate that which you have committed to my specific query.

I'm going to have to read this through several times ... 'cuz right now the vacuum cleaner is whistling away in the next room ... and I don't learn well at all in an environment full of external stimuli.

I got a pretty nice 1909 UNC Indian Head cent delivered today. Looks like a nice piece of subject matter for experimenting with the settings.

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 Posted 10/25/2013  1:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chancellor Sutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have a plan B ...

I printed Dave's prescription for a starting point. I take pictures in the other building, separate from this computer. Not always convenient.

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Thank you for the kind words, Chance, but be aware that's what we do here in this forum. I'm hardly the only member here with a longstanding commitment to helping others develop their photography skills; the key to being able to accurately interpret coin images relates directly to one's own experience and skill level when creating one's own images.

This is an increasingly-necessary skill in a world where more and more coins are being sold via the Internet, using photographs. I feel very strongly that these skills are as necessary as the ability to grade in today's numismatic market.
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I saw the title of another post ... about "trying my hand at making money with coin photography" ... and thought ... yep, anybody that's ever tried to sell a coin with a picture they've snapped is doing exactly that. Profit or loss is directly attributable to quality of the images you can afford the prospective buyer.

I appreciate everybody's input. It does take time, and it's time you're not paid for ... so acknowledging that is the least that a person can do.

So, until you're better paid (as an older gentleman I once knew used to say) Thanks to all.

I'll post some pics of the 1909 IHC tonight ... hopefully. Maybe it will look like a crisply minted coin and not a piece of 50s hammered aluminum barware. But I'll stillbe limited in the lighting department for the time being.

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 Posted 10/26/2013  9:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chancellor Sutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm still out here, and haven't lost interest in pursuing this. I can become distracted though. I tend to be obsessive-compulsive, though and some of you know me well enough to have figured that out already.

Here's a "silly putty" point and shoot pic of the 1909 IHC that I just got on wednesday. I am going to attempt to do a much better job of capturing the coin as it appears "in hand", because this image really doesn't. But it's a good one to use as a starting point.

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Still having trouble with the controls ... most notably, the camera likes to select an aperture of 3.1 or 8, and I have yet to figure out how to tweak that. The batteries are charging again ... but I got an 1859 Indian in from a stamp dealer in Italy today, and figured that I'd shoot them together ... "first and last"

Too much post processing to even get them this close.

I'm using an ott light ... full spectrum, and was able to adjust the white balance, but all fluorescent lights cycle, so that's just not going to work.

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Keep in mind, having chosen the "M" setting for full Manual operation, you need to make all of the shot setting choices yourself. If you don't like the aperture, don't let the camera set it there.
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I think that I need to use the button on the front of the camera ... the one that has the plus and minus on it, to make that adjustment. But toggling the touch pad only allows switching between 3.1 and 8.

That's why I said I'm having trouble with "the controls". I am going to dig out the manual and see if I can't learn how to drive this thing.

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Chance have you made any progress?

I have the same camera and the same problem. Silver coins look like hand forged silly putty.

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Buffalo Bill, that is a great image and precisely what I expect to see an AU 1921 Morgan to look like in an online posting.
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Thanks Dave.

That is a 50% reduction of the original image. I also corrected the color and sharpened it. This is the best out of about 20 images.
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The full size image has the putty problem Chance was talking about.
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These are a more accurate representation. The difference being a single light source on the first and diffuse sunlight from the bottom on these.

These are ISO 64 the other is ISO 400.

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