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 Posted 11/16/2013  9:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chubbycheeks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes I think NuMoosematist Is correct. I don't think they have solid information, and also she wouldn't want to cause any issues if she were to say yes the set has a mintage of XXXX but it reality it's XXXX
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 Posted 11/17/2013  03:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pocket change 50 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I called back to see if I'd get the same response. Low & behold a different rep and I still got the same response. If this is the way the mint chooses to function, no wonder it's in such a state. For people that have been customers of the mint prior to 2012. Was the customer service and shipping better, since releases were quarterly? I'm wondering if monthly production of new coins, has had a negative impact on shipping and responses to customer service. To me it seems if the mint is overwhelmed by all these new coins!
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 Posted 11/17/2013  10:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dcadon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For what it's worth, imho I am quite happy with both the Mints shipping, and the service provided by my sales representative. As a 'mostly' collector I have received all of the coins I have ever ordered. Time has never been a factor, so I'm quite happy with the shipping...as long as I get them eventually. All this fabricated concern about mintages, and 'how many boxes' is irrelevant. If you like the coins discuss them, describe them, enjoy them, buy them, but all this negativity is leading a lot of people away from this forum.
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 Posted 11/17/2013  1:00 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
and well said... who cares how many they make, or how many box sets are made and sold. I like this series, and intend to get it.
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 Posted 11/17/2013  1:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CC-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Why set mintages? Just produce everything to demand and you'll all be happy, right?
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 Posted 11/17/2013  1:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Northerncoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Lol CC .... some will I guess.... I for one wouldn't be, but then again I would save alot of money because I wouldn't buy anymore RCM coins. Well maybe just the bullion ...
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 Posted 11/17/2013  1:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arianzo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry guys but I don't get your point.

If we don't care about mintage we're not talking more about NCLT, we're talking about bullion.
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 Posted 11/17/2013  2:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NuMoosematist to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@ Dcadon and SPP-Ottawa

With all due respect, it's unfortunate that the legitimate concerns expressed by members here are dismissed by both of you in such a cavalier and condescending manner.

It should not matter matter if folks spend $100 or $10,000 on NCLT coins from the RCM. They are entitled to share their experiences and opinions about the design, quality, quantities, service and anything related to the hobby.

Most of the criticism expressed by members here is designed to be constructive. We all hope that the mint is listening and will do their best to rectify systemic problems and improve service.

With regard to the "negativity" that is supposedly "...leading a lot of people away from this forum...", I would suggest that you read some of your own previous posts.
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 Posted 11/17/2013  3:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lithanial to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know if this has been mentioned, but the non-sub is "awaiting stock".
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 Posted 11/18/2013  01:24 am  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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With all due respect, it's unfortunate that the legitimate concerns expressed by members here are dismissed by both of you in such a cavalier and condescending manner.

It should not matter matter if folks spend $100 or $10,000 on NCLT coins from the RCM. They are entitled to share their experiences and opinions about the design, quality, quantities, service and anything related to the hobby.

Most of the criticism expressed by members here is designed to be constructive. We all hope that the mint is listening and will do their best to rectify systemic problems and improve service.

With regard to the "negativity" that is supposedly "...leading a lot of people away from this forum...", I would suggest that you read some of your own previous posts.


I, and others, have not impacted in any negative way the means in which people have shared their experiences or opinions. To answer your question, no the mint is not listening, most definitely not listening here. It took me several weeks of phone calls and meetings at the mint in 2011 to convince them not to use PVC plastic in their loon dollar packaging (Navy loon, Roughrider loon $5 for $5 sets). The RCM representative who used to come here, lasted about six months, and has not been here since 2012.

http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/...lay&id=17046

The "negativity" you speak of, is a reality check. The mint is not bound by ethics, and they are in the business of making money. They are only accountable to the Receiver General of Canada. NCLT, and how its role in numismatics is interpreted, is all just a matter of perspective. It is bullion, it is art, it is an investment, it is short term profit, it is a presentation piece... pick one.... people buy this stuff for many reasons. Hi-jacking the thread about what was simply an appreciation of the coin itself, to complain about boxes and sets, that is hardly numismatics anymore... I don't blame collectors from being led away from here - I barely participate in the NCLT forum as it is... because the majority of the threads have little to do about the coins themselves...

As for cavalier and condescending manners... nobody ever said this place was a popularity contest... I call it like I see it...
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with the above spp man as he got far more the old timer

to the nu moose guy, maybe you say with respect but don't really give the respect when you talk like that to the other guy, the saying go that when you finger the point to the outher guy then them all the rest they are pointing back at you

The SPP make way more sense of then do you, and I never think anyone they lead away from the forum, (sometime they get kick off), and what is the say if you cant stand the hot get away from the kitchen stoves,

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 Posted 11/18/2013  12:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dcadon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you SPP-OTTAWA, couldn't have said it better myself.
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 Posted 11/18/2013  2:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chubbycheeks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm sorry, but I think you guys are ganging up on NuMoose here. The advertised mintage of a set and total coins minted has everything to do with coins and coin collecting. I can't believe you guys can't see that. The mintage of any coin plays a role in where that coin goes. And I believe the same can be said for set's.

If anyone bought into a coin set that was advertised with XX amount and the real amount was later changed without any type of notice to the buyer. That wouldn't warrant some type of discussion? You could argue that a new thread could have been made, but wouldn't it be easier to keep it in the Lake Superior coin portion?
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 Posted 11/18/2013  2:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arianzo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Exactly what I think.

We see in many threads people buying nice display boxes paying $50, $100, etc so NCLT is not just buying a coin. Is all that is related to and with it.

Definition of NUMISMATICS
: the study or collection of coins, tokens, and paper money and sometimes related objects. Source: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dict.../numismatics

If I want to collect something, I don't want everyone to have it, that's why the mintage is important. Why Charles book indicate mintage of every single released coin if mintage is not related to numismatic just the coin?

Today, 2013, we can't ignore that in NCLT the clamshell, box, sleeve, COA, the whole presentation and the mintage as well as the coin have importance. That's why if you just have the coin, you have to sell it at least 15% cheaper.
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I agree that mintages are factors, number of boxes...not so much. As we saw last year, as the price of silver escalated, people were emptying their boxes, as the bullion value of the coins exceeded the collector value.

In the end of this discussion I bet we find that the original information will be correct, 1500 sets included in a production run of 10,000 coins. I'm sure, when it's all said and done, the mint will release all the numbers. Bottom line....it's their business, and as such $hit happens, and thing can change between expected numbers, and actual releases. Those of you who are gambling on sell outs etc. remember...you are gambling.
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