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Barbarian Or Vandal?

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Yes, I have posted this coin before, and No I have not finished cleaning it. I was having a browse around and came across some Vandals and it struck me that there were similarities to my coin. I do have some barbarian imitations, but none have this style:

Barbarian-Or-Vandal?

Barbarian-Or-Vandal?

Not found one wearing a helmet, but looking at the style?
Barbarian-Or-Vandal?

And this reverse (different from the coin obv above) shows strokes for legend.
Barbarian-Or-Vandal?

Any comments would be helpful.
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 Posted 11/15/2013  1:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
IMO it's a barb and a very interesting looking one at that. VK would know if it's a Vandal or not.
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 Posted 11/15/2013  1:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
IMO you are probably right, but I can dream a little while longer :)
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 Posted 11/15/2013  2:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yeoldecoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have emailed a customer who is very well versed with barbs and will get the picture to him for an opinion.
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I am trying/struggling to make out the reverse, or at least what was intended in the reverse, the bust looks like a Constantine I helmeted bust which may have had an altar reverse VICTORIAE LAETAE PRINC PERP, but I cannot see it? Its a lovely coin...I really like the crude imitation.
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 Posted 11/15/2013  2:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You almost need a chisel to get the encrustations off, it is really hard work! I thought I would just find out it was nothing really special before I continued. It looks as though it is two victories standing on a box with possibly an alter in the middle and a series of dots above.
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 Posted 11/15/2013  3:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Triskeles Auctions to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Neat coin. It is a 'barbarous' imitation of a Constantine I VICTORIAE LAETAE PRINC PERP reverse follis (AE3 module), unfortunately not Vandalic.

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 Posted 11/15/2013  3:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dutchgulden to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like those coins! nice barbaric style
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As I thought Triskeles....nice coin.
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Brilliant thanks. Just taken off a chunk and it has revealed green flaky stuff. Looking like active BD which is disappointing.
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If its any help at all my barb man says...'an interesting style, possibly Germanic but could also be Balkans.'
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 Posted 11/15/2013  6:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks YOC, yes helpful, I will put it on the label, it is a keeper.
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Most definitely a keeper, its a lovely coin PP.
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 Posted 11/15/2013  7:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have a couple of other barbs, they are nothing to write home about, but I love this one. Not sure about any more cleaning, it is like trying to do a jigsaw puzzle without a picture.
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Yeup, Victoria laete prin blah blah. Very crude style, perhaps clashed dies. This stuff does turn up in the UK, you'd need to know its find location to know where it was made. Not got one similar from a UK tribe though.
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 Posted 11/15/2013  7:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ben, it came in a lot of uncleaned. Huge encrustations on the reverse, and the obv was not really visible. I cleaned the obv first and it started looking nice. It has taken ages to do the reverse. I have to keep leaving it, in case I get carried away. I think I will leave it as it is now. I have taken a bit more off from the pics shown here.
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