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 Posted 11/21/2013  12:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jon K to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
At the price I am asking, I thought it would have been gone by now. Not so. I am thinking it is being held back by a couple things.
The appearance does not scream "buy me!!".
And the ANACS holder.
I could definitely get it out of the holder, all that takes is a few bucks. If it comes back at a good grade.
And acetone is a possibility, it might take some of the distractions off, but I have never had any real results from acetone. I use it mostly just to be sure there are no contaminants before grading or storage.
So, I suppose I will keep it listed for a bit longer, maybe put in on ebay as a last resort.
If it just doesn't sell, I might crack it out and give it an acetone bath.
And if it looks better, send it in for grading. I will stay away from the new bucket of EZest that I have over in the corner. Probably. Most likely.
I will shoot some "after" shots before I send it in.
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 Posted 11/21/2013  12:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If anyone is not buying that due to the ANACS holder, I would find that hard to believe. I know no one who would be int he market for a coin like that that would not buy it because ANACS graded it, but turn around and say Oh! PCGS graded it, I HAVE to have it!

And why on ebay as "a last resort"? ebay is NOT a last resort. That would be Craigs list.
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 Posted 11/21/2013  01:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jon K to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I stay away from ebay as much as I can to avoid the outrageous fees. I really do not like donating 10 points to ebay / PayPal.
I agree that Craigslist is far down on the list. I could tell some CL stories that would curl yer hair. Not as a seller, though, but as a buyer. I spent some time roaming southern Mississippi buying motorcycles from meth heads. Ah, but I digress . . . . selling on CL never occurred to me.
I like to sell on the boards. You meet some nice people.
I would hope that the holder is not holding it back, I do not believe it is overgraded either. But that hope is just that, a hope. My experience has been that I never get top dollar for an ANACS coin. Just my experience, you mileage may vary.
Ack, this is off topic. I am hijacking my own thread.
If I may ask for more opinions, what if anything will acetone accomplish.
And would any damage occur?
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 Posted 11/28/2013  10:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jon K to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK, I have now got it on three boards and on ebay. $100 under trends. 10 days. No takers so far.
Relisted on ebay this morning.
Smokeriderdon, this piece is quickly moving from a "not a cheap coin" to a "cheap coin". If I sell it today on ebay, I will have less than $200 in my pocket.
Really, all I am needing to do is sell it, as I purchased a sweeeeet 36-D in MS62. I need to sell this one in order to recoup some of my money. I am $100 under trends. Hmmm . . . I said that already.
Here is what I have in my mind. Tell me (again) that I am crazy. I am considering cracking it, dipping it to brighten it up a bit and resubmitting it. It will come back in a PCGS no problem holder AU58. And I will get a good price when I sell.
Right?
I don't know why I am posting this, no one is going to change their mind. But I hate to give away (sell ridiculously cheap) a potentially valuable coin. I would almost rather ruin it.
Rats . . . . . .
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 Posted 11/28/2013  11:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I am considering cracking it, dipping it to brighten it up a bit and resubmitting it. It will come back in a PCGS no problem holder AU58. And I will get a good price when I sell. Right?


Wrong. Maybe you get away with it, maybe you throw a couple hundred bucks worth of value down the tubes. The problem is not so much the skin on the coin - it's the fact that you're expecting the world to beat a path to your door on Thanksgiving. I wouldn't consider listing a coin on ebay until mid-January at this point - I've been burned too badly by trying to sell during the Christmas season over the years.
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 Posted 11/28/2013  12:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jon K to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hmmmmm . . . . .
There goes SuperDave again. Making sense as usual.
Actually I hadn't particularly considered seasonality.
I suppose I could sit on it.
Trouble is that I am an engineer by trade, a "Mad Scientist" of sorts. And a gunsmith. And an engine builder.
It is so difficult for me not to tinker with things.
I still haven't cracked it, but the temptation is soooo strong!


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 Posted 11/28/2013  12:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


I feel you, man. Seriously, if you can possibly hold off on the sale, sit on it until after the New Year when collectors can turn their attention back to numismatics.

What worries me most about a dip for this one is the darker stuff to the right of the date and the crud around the mint mark. The latter is a common thing with Washington quarters, and a knowledgeable collector will get it, but I don't see either of those things going away with a dip. That means they'll stand out like sore thumbs, and I don't know if the coin then survives in a "righteous" slab.
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 Posted 11/28/2013  6:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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 Posted 11/28/2013  7:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jon K to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Not my intent to make this a "for sale" thread.
Would like to focus on the coin. Thanks though.
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 Posted 11/28/2013  8:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh I know that Jon. Simply sayin.

To the original point. After much thought I am coming down squarely on the side of leave it be. Its not the coin or the slab. Its simply the market at the moment as Dave was saying. Dave gets it right now and again. You know, blind squirrel and nuts.
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 Posted 11/28/2013  8:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jon K to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All good!!
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 Posted 11/28/2013  8:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NathanASE to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm a bit late on this thread... So not much to add that hasn't been said.. But that I definitely wouldn't dip it.

Also, regarding ANACS, I wouldn't crack it and resubmit at all. I actually like ANACS alot. Although I'm not a super fan of the new holders, but the old small white ANACS slabs are hands down my favorite.. And I will only send varieties and Morgan's to them, neither of the other top two.

I find them to be pretty darn equal in grading with the other two, great (arguably the best) in attributing varieties and VAM's and attribute far more different varieties/VAM's than the others. The direct submittion without paid membership is awesome, and as well as the normal low prices they offer free grading and super deals through out the year.

There comming up in the game and I really see no reason why anyone would pay more soley for a PCGS/NGC slab, I always buy the coin in it as I grade it, not what the slab say, whichever the company.. I would never pay more (or less) for a coin just because of the "house" it resides in...
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 Posted 11/28/2013  8:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jon K to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nathan, I submitted this coin to ANACS myself. I love their business model, and feel that the coin is graded fairly.
If everyone felt the same as I do then everything in my collection would be in ANACS holders. I love the holders as well, though not a fan of the yellow labels.
Reality sets in when time to sell. And my collection could not grow if I can't upgrade from time to time, as I do concentrate on one series. Washingtons for 45 years.
Sadly, I have never been able to get top dollar for ANACS coins. Indeed, I look for ANACS coins when I buy as I know I can sometimes find a great deal on a great coin.
So I suppose I like to buy ANACS, and sell the "other guys".
Sorta sad . . . . .
Tell me your experience is different, I am forever the optimist.

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 Posted 11/28/2013  8:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I would never pay more (or less) for a coin just because of the "house" it resides in...


Even if it is an SGS slab? ;)
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 Posted 11/28/2013  9:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jdmern to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also late into the thread but I really like that coin, checked out the listing looks like it already has a bid, never realized what a tough coin that was in high grades... I'll def be watching that listing :)
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