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Pillar of the Community
United States
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So they had a BIN w/best offer listing for 25 AU Washington quarters Type B reverse for $179. I made an offer of $112. It was declined. I just noticed that they had reduced the BIN price to 143.60. I attempted to raise my offer, and found out that I was blocked, and even blocked from contacting them. I was able to contact them, and got a rambling response about ridiculous offers, etc. This is a first for me. Guess it takes all kinds. They seem like a reputable company. Just don't make them a low offer or you'll be in the dog house  I've been buying plenty of them for $5, and uncs for $8. Nice to see they are doing well enough to just throw customers away. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Thats absurd to block someone for an offer that wasnt high enough for them. Youre better off not dealing with people like that.
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Thanks. Plus when one sets up a Best Offer listing there is a choice to automatically decline offers below "x" amount, and the seller doesn't even have to deal with it. I don't take it too personally, just business. Amusing. Tempted to make an offer from my other seller account just to see what happens  Edited by edweather
01/24/2014 10:10 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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Youre being generous calling that just business. Thats amateur hour, anyone that knows anything about business would have either rejected or if they were smart countered your offer. Itd be one thing if you were offering a dollar for a bunch of things but a reasonable first bid to start the back and forth and your blocked, sounds like a salty seller.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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My curiosity got the best of me and I made an offer, not much higher than the first, through another seller account that I have. They accepted almost immediately without even countering. I was tickled  |
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I'm not going to defend them, but consider that there are serial underbidders, people who think nothing of making ridiculous lowball offers with no intention of ever paying a fair price. If you're turning a lot of business on Best Offers, you lack the time to deal with such a person and are likely to simply block them as an alternative to seeing endless lowballs. Your initial Best Offer was considerably more than a third lower than the asking price; I'd have denied that instantly myself (although not in such a final fashion). As for accepting your second offer, well, that's on them. |
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i have dealt with them before. they are good people.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Yeah, I think the part that stuck in my craw is them cutting the price the next day to within 22% of my offer. Just seemed a bit odd  It worked out well in the end though |
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It seems to be a more and more common attitude with ebay sellers: anyone who asks any kind of question or raises any kind of issue, no matter how innocent or eBay-acceptable, is a potential troublemaker and therefore is someone to be blocked. These days you need (at least) three ebay IDs to get buy: a buying account, a selling account and an "asking questions" account. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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In one sense, I really can't blame the sellers for having such a short fuse. ebay has surgically removed their after-the-fact options for recourse (without benefit of anesthesia) so many - myself included - feel the appropriate policy to be "better safe than sorry." |
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United States
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That's not the issue Ssuper. It is these sellers who block or "scold" buyers for "lowball" offers that aren't at all ridiculous or lowball. As the OP said they should set a "auto-reject" price if they are annoyed by such offers - that is what I do when I sell with a BO option. I will say that it gets lost on auto-list, so I occasionally have a lowball offer slip in. I just counter or reject ( no hysterionics like blocking or scolding when it happens ). IMO, that is totally unprofessional and uncalled for. That the seller dropped their BIN price significantly and then accepted his offer from an unblocked account shows how ridiculously dumb the whole scenario was. And stuff like this is on the rise. I've had enough sellers accept a 30%-40% of BIN as a best offer to know that "lowball" and "offensive offer wasting my time" is in the eye of the beholder. Some won't DEAL/HAGGLE even with a 90% of BIN offer even(so they waste buyer's time having a BO option). And so many want double or triple retail list. IMO there are far more delusional/ridiculous sellers on ebay than ridiculously lowball buyers. Both sides have to wade through the it. But IMO too many sellers are so ridiculous in their pricing they have ZERO reason to be blocking and scolding. |
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That is what really stinks sap. You shouldn't have to beard back in to counteract stupidity like that. Yet I have been blocked for asking about their return policy or asking for better quality pics because the ones listed were so blurry details were completely obscured. IMO, legit sellers don't block buyers for legit questions. Only those that ARE HIDING flaws or trying to deceive jump to the "block on any question" bandwagon. Yet some sellers/posters here claim it is SOP for them as well. I guess they feel the risk of returns is too high for anyone posing any questions about anything. That is just downright poor business. Those that afraid of returns have a reason to fear them - IMO - in that they are not standing by their sales as they are up to something. I've bought hundreds of coins off ebay. Pics can sometimes be very deceptive. I've had to return about 5% of them as being significantly different than portrayed. Others have ended up much better than they looked in the pics, so it is a mixed bag buying from pics. Sometimes the "returned to" seller will send me an email saying that they agree that the pics don't match etc. - then put the same pics back up in an ad to sell the same coin.  Quote:It seems to be a more and more common attitude with ebay sellers: anyone who asks any kind of question or raises any kind of issue, no matter how innocent or eBay-acceptable, is a potential troublemaker and therefore is someone to be blocked. These days you need (at least) three ebay IDs to get buy: a buying account, a selling account and an "asking questions" account. |
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United States
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I bought from them before, no problems. Got a Jahangir half Dam and a Bikanir paisa for about 6 bucks including shipping charges. The Jahangir (Ahmadabad, date off flan) alone is worth MUCH more than what I paid. From the rest of their inventory, it looks like they don't deal too much with Indian copper.
As for sending snotty responses to low ball offers, I wouldn't take it personally. I've gotten nasty messages from buyers who want something for nothing. I remember once I had an unlisted, variety of Ceylon (VOC) stuiver up for sale and some guy tried to tell me it was nothing, not worth a tenth of what I had it up for and that his offer was generous. If memory serves I had it listed for about $130 or so - which is fair - He offered $35. Took all I had in me to bite my tongue and respond that the price was fair, and thank you for your offer, but I simply can't accept. I still have that coin knocking about in a binder somewhere, glad I do now.
Now I just set the listing to reject lowball offers. Saves me a ton of time and no dealing with knuckleheads.
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