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 Posted 07/25/2005  4:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Okay, one more crack at some advice for you. Please listen this time.

1. Ditch the reserve.

2. You only used 47 of the 55 characters allowed in the title. Have you ever searched the words very or nice or colors when looking for a coin on ebay? No? Then why are they in the title? How about "coin", (that's what it is after all) or "silver" or "US"? Here's the title you should use....

US coins 1880-O SILVER Morgan dollar PCGS MS64 TONED

3. Sorry to say it but, if you want $1400 for a coin you need better pictures. Even if you have to pay someone to take them.

4. By far, the most hits any auction receives is on the last day because ebay's default search sort is ending first. You have it ending in the middle of a Sunday afternoon, in the middle of the summer. During your prime hit time, people are barbequeing or on the beach somewhere or stuck in traffic coming home.

Take my advice or not, its up to you.
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 Posted 07/25/2005  5:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add catman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very Sound advice Bobby. Anyone selling would do well to follow it.

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quote:
Originally posted by Mike

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quote:
Originally posted by rggoodie
You can lead a horse to water


True, but then you have to shoot it.
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As you can see I have little experience in this, high item selling that is. I have made some of the changes recommended by people here. The pictures while not of the greatest quality are better than most on ebay. Since shipping is free and returns are no questions asked, it seems inviting to me. If I dont sell the coin this time, I know someone from PCGS Forums who I can consign it to, who makes great photos and is well known for his photography skills. I removed BIN and Retitled the auction. Of all the coins of similar grade and date , MM etc, to me this auction looks most inviting. Free S/H/I...No questions asked, and a low reserve price.
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I can see that you are trying. That is a very positive move on your part.
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quote:
The pictures while not of the greatest quality are better than most on ebay.


Well, um... not really. In my opinion, any photos that you can't see at least the details of the grading points all fall into the same category of "quality".

quote:
As you can see I have little experience in this, high item selling that is.


That's the problem. Even if your pictures were "better than most", they're not good enough. You are asking someone to pay $1,000 and up with photos that don't show any detail or the toning that you're playing up in the auction.

With a little effort you could have gotten better pictures. Heck I made the ones you took about twice as good.

I'll tell you something, after the title, the photos are the single most important thing in the auction. That goes for most auctions, but is especially true with coins.

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 Posted 07/26/2005  12:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just thought I'd offer up some hard data about ending times. There are a lot of sellers that don't pay too much attention to it but it's extremely important. Look at these charts. These are from our most recent hits on coin auctions. About 1,000.

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70% sort by ending first, 73% don't go past the first page of search results. That should tell you how important it is to end your auction at the correct time for your product.

Ending times for coins you ask? Here are hourly hit stats for the last 7 days.

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Times shown are eastern time.

I just wanted to let you know, I don't make this stuff up.
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 Posted 07/26/2005  12:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TerrapinWill to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I understand the points you make completely. But for this coin bidding and buying is virtually risk free. ill ship it for nothing, registered and insured, and take it back with no questions asked. Although I havent sold too many items, my feedback is 100%. there is no reason for anyone to be suspicious of the coin offered. The person who buys this coin is going to be thrilled to death. It is also difficult to get good images of toned coins through plastic. I can't aregue your strategic points, because you are right. I just figured that someone might want to try to steal a coin for less than greysheet. I guess not.


Auction ended early....only lost listing fees...relisted to start 8pm PDT tonight, and run through Sunday night. Hopefully better luck.
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It is also difficult to get good images of toned coins through plastic.


Its actually not as difficult as you think. The only problem is getting the angle of the camera in combination with the angle of the light so that there's no glare. Toning is not an extra obstacle.

Light (halogen spot) goes from about 3 feet above and about a foot behind and to the left by about 2 feet. Camera goes above and in front, aiming at about a 10 degree angle. That will capture everything. Detail, luster, toning, etc. assuming your camera has a decent macro mode.

These were taken through plastic....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...m=8320384141

$9.95 opening bid, no reserve, good title, good pics. Its at $642 now, 80% of RedBook and has the best 7 hours of the auction left.
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 Posted 07/26/2005  4:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Man Bobbie those photo's of that 1838 are stunning! With you at the camera and Susan's excellent knowledge and handling of the auctions, how can you lose! Thanks Guys!!!!Mike
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quote:
Man Bobbie those photo's of that 1838 are stunning! With you at the camera and Susan's excellent knowledge and handling of the auctions, how can you lose! Thanks Guys!!!!Mike


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Not to beat a dead horse, but this auction started at $9.95 with no reserve, a gallery pic, and border. Total listing fee = $3.70.

Blew Heritage realized prices out of the water except for 1 PCGS graded MS61 3 years ago.

Lots to be said for no reserve, low starting bid, and taking a risk...
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 Posted 07/26/2005  11:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU! Except for the old PCGS sale this auction crushed the old prices realized! $1000.09!!!!!


1838 50C MS61 ANACS.

Previous Prices from Heritage Auctions
Lot Date Grade Service Realized
Sale 381, Lot 459 Monday, July 4, 2005 61 ANACS $546.25
Sale 369, Lot 543 Monday, March 28, 2005 61 NGC $632.50
Sale 319, Lot 1108 Monday, May 5, 2003 61 NGC $575.00
Sale 314, Lot 7793 Saturday, March 1, 2003 61 PCGS $1,380.00 (hammer was $1200.00)
Sale 314, Lot 7792 Saturday, March 1, 2003 61 NGC $630.00



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