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 Posted 06/04/2014  08:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ham1947 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd look elsewhere.
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I came across a listing a few days ago by GSC for a 37-s Washington quarter that had 30 bids with a current price of about $5. I figured I'd check it out and decided to run the price up a bit as I thought it may be a shill bidder. I ran the bid up to $73 and the person (shill) had about 8 more bid increments above the $73 mark. The auction was closing last night and I just left it alone and went to bed. This morning I find an e-mail that my bid was cancelled. Apparently the price didn't make it to where GSC wanted it and they cancelled the auction. Here's the best part, the suspected shill has 2,500 bids in a 30 day period with 80% being GSC auctions. Coincidence?

Oh, this is even better, I checked the recent feedback for GSC and never found feedback left by that bidder.
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Nice experiment. I rest my case!
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 Posted 06/07/2014  3:50 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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IMHO they appear to be good sellers, and I want to be fair, but the photos do appear enhanced and in some cases the fields are kind of blown out (you can't really see the detail in the fields). Another problem: they only guarantee authenticity. This means to me that that can't guarantee that their coins haven't been altered. That being the case--and I know that their coins for the most part look awesome--I don't understand for the life of me how they have so many buyers. My wife and I have sent them basic inquiries about their coins and their photos, but neither of us has ever received a response. This all gives me pause
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In response to Dave700x, I've noticed that the bidder you mentioned--a***r(4228)--bids multiple times in many of the GSC autions, but appears to never win any. In my opinion, this is clearly shill bidding activity. He/she appears to bid very strategically, with an ubderstanding of coin values, and with no intention of winning.
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I've noticed that the bidder you mentioned--a***r(4228)--bids multiple times in many of the GSC autions, but appears to never win any. In my opinion, this is clearly shill bidding activity.


Very common practice among bidders to try and scare off other bidders. The bid number increment is increased every time a bid is placed, even if the bid doesn't change the current high bid. So instead of bidding $30 one time, they bid $1, then $2, then $3... all the way to $30. No difference in what they'll pay, but now the auction shows 30 bids.

In my opinion this is a flaw in the bidding system. The amount of bids should only change when the high bid amount actually changes.
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Very common practice among bidders to try and scare off other bidders.


I don't think they (shills) are trying to scare off bidders. Just the opposite. By showing lots of bids on an item a potential bidder might say, 'oh, this is worth bidding on, everybody else is,' or this coin must be real, look at all the bids.'

Having lots of bids on a coin doesn't scare me at all. I look at the coin and look at the price, that's all. Some have lots of bids, and some not so much, but that has very little influence on my bidding.

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