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How Is A Die Made?

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How is a die made?
What is a Hub?
A couple of questions you might have asked yourself during the discussions found on the Coin Community Forum. The dies are made from stock bars that are shaped to make dies and imprinted/pressed into shape with a hub To understand the process you might want to look at my chart of the progression of the die making process. We will mainly be covering the last two steps. "Working hubs" and "Working dies."
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The earlier steps of preparation of the hubs and dies help us to realize that there is a positive and a negative of the steps. The coins being a positive, the dies being a negative and hubs being a positive. So what does that mean? A positive shows the devices as we normally see them. A negative is the die that during the strike makes a positive coin. The hub is a positive making the die as negative to strike a positive coin. Sounds complex, but seeing this in an image will help us see what I'm talking about.
So lets start with the stock material and the dies:
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In this image we see the process of stock, hubs, die and hardening to temper the dies.
Note on the left the stock material which is cut into lengths and setup for making the dies:
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These images were from an online site showing the a little background of the San Francisco Mint. So we will be seeing mostly proof dies.
Here is the 2014 Kennedy half dollar. This is the Hubs for the Proof halves:
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Note the design is a positive. Note on the obverse hub, the 6 lines around the design? These are called lugs and grooves to keep the hub and the die in place to keep from making a doubled impression on the dies. This is transferred to the dies and removed from the dies in a later process.
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Here is the hubbing press and a hub (On the left) and a Die (On the right)
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To remove the lugs, the die is tapered to remove this so it will not show on the coins struck.
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Here is another view of the lugs on a die before they are removed and tapered.
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The dies are checked and measured to make sure they are exact:
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Then they are hardened and polished:
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Then the dies are ready to be tapered/tempered/polished and then they ready to be used.
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Seems simple, but takes a lot of effort as were only covering the last two steps of the die progression to create a die.
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Outstanding post, Coop! Thanks for taking the time to put all this together.
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Wow! This is great information! I'd love to see more information on the first 2 steps, also.
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Yes - nice job!
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We need a "coop's corner" for posts like these!
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Wow, that's awesome! Thanks coop! I just read all of the pages on how dies are made and how errors are created on the wexler website. Between your info here and the wexler pages, I have a much better understanding of the minting process and more importantly, I now better understand what to look for as far as errors are concerned! Thank you so much for posting these!
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The fist step mention on the chart was the making of the "Galvino". Here is a Video that does discuss it along with other facts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48P7yOBZczQ
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AZKPVdw-7g

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Impressive, thank you.
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Coop,
Thank you!
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You da man coop
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The last two pictures are mislabeled. Those are Kennedy Reverse dies ready to be tapered in the metal lathe.

Excellent presentation. Should make it very clear to those who don't have a firm understanding of the process.
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This info helps tie together so many things I have had questions about. Thank you so much!
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Even after a die dies Coops legacy lives on, great pics and post.
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Really great presentation coop. I've added this to my favorites for future reference.


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Fantastic Coop!

Should we ask the People in charge to make a " COOP'S CORNER " ?

Sounds like a great idea to me as well Coins Kelly !



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