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Valued Member
Canada
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They are quite nice, although not very knowledgeable about errors. They are my local dealers of choice as well, and I get called by them occasionally to look at errors for them.
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Valued Member
Australia
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Well it looks genuine to me. It is not possible to create doubling like that in a vice or with a hammer. Although trying to convince anyone would be a hard task.
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
870 Posts |
how did the Z get below the bust?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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this is getting interestilg, I was fairly certain of PMD until I noticed the double strike. I would say if youre interested tell them youd be interested if its certified. if theres a return option I would do it at a fair price and then send it in, if it comes back not genuine I'm sure they'll take it back. Feel free to call me Will.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
870 Posts |
hey Dollarman. I'm not even looking at buying the coin at this time. I am actually just helping the shop determine what it is and if it is genuine. good suggestion though to get it certified.  |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
3049 Posts |
I think that's the only way we're going to get this figured o out by getting it certified...
The doubling .. the "Z" ... the offset die strike ... yet having all denticles and the rim being intact... there really is just too many weird things going on with this coin...
Too much that my spidey senses are tingling.... so I would only buy this certified...
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
5404 Posts |
Old Coin Dealer saying "If in doubt ..............never buy 'til you certify ". It is always a good idea to go with your first gut feeling when buying an expensive or in this case unusual numismatic item. Personally I would NOT touch this one unless it was NGC holdered. BTW looks like it is pulled from ebay ? |
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Moderator
Canada
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Certification is expensive with either NGC or PCGS... that would definitely impact the selling price, if certified.
"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
870 Posts |
pacificcoin...the auction ended with no bids on ebay. SPP...any thoughts on the coin itself? |
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Canada
10463 Posts |
Without the coin in hand, I really can't say much... I had a nickel 50-cent piece struck through cloth, and it did not look like that.
The most suspicious thing for me is that for most strike through errors, whereby the coin is struck through foreign debris, the affected planchet usually only occurs on one side (with secondary elements, like a weak strike, on the opposite side). This one would require two pieces of debris, on each side of the planchet - which seems highly unlikely.
When it comes to errors, you have to adopt a "guilty until proven innocent" approach...
"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
Edited by SPP-Ottawa
06/11/2014 5:33 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Not surprised ! Certification is NOT expensive if it saves you from buying a mistake. I for one don't regret any money that I have ever spent with NGC, ANACS ,PCGS , or ICCS. In some cases it has been a bargain. As to this 1961 half I'm with SPP .............it failed "pre screening" LOL imho
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
5404 Posts |
So, I had some spare time and my hands today and went and examined said coin. I can without doubt tell all that this piece is a vise squash job beyond doubt. The coin has absolutely perfect denticles and is LARGER than a normal Silver EIIR silver half of the same series. You can see where the other coin was squashed in the vice. The marks are not cloth in nature to any struck through error I have encountered. The weight was bang on compared to a normal half. Also the coin is warped yet another clue to a vise job.
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New Member
Canada
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HI All...I thought I would join in since there are a couple of people, who I have never met or communicated with, that are judging my ethics, integrity, and knowledge of coins. I have recently bought a collection from an individual that had two pages of possible error coins. I have never claimed to be an expert on errors so I decided in fairness to this individual, that I would handle the error coins on a consignment basis. A listed a couple of obvious clips on ebay and this one particular 1961 50 cent coin. We believed we took clear pictures and gave the best description possible. I have now removed this coin from ebay and will send it in to NGC for certification and see what they think. It is an interesting coin and what throws me off as far as if it was squeezed or altered post mint, is the fact that the doubling of the date is raised not incuse. I have sent pictures off to people that collect and deal in errors for their opinion. I have showed it to numerous people here in the store, and tonight it will be passed around at our local Numismatic Society's meeting for opinions. |
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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 lccoinsltd If you have a table at the Vancouver show this weekend, can you please bring the coin along? "Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
4911 Posts |
, will you be at torex at the end of the month? Feel free to call me Will.
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