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1961 50 Cent Struck Through Cloth?

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 Posted 06/15/2014  10:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add airgem to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Getting more ridiculous by the minute. Now we have to throw away all our coins with doubling because someone claims to be able to create it. They might all be Fake!!
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 Posted 06/16/2014  08:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zonad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a similar coin, I think was done in mint.

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 Posted 06/16/2014  11:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Reverse pic please Zonad ?
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 06/16/2014  5:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add airgem to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Another great error coin Zonad. "No Decision"!. They obviously don't have any experts there. The coin is clearly minted over the doubling. But is suppose someone will come up with some crackpot theory as to how it could be altered.
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 Posted 06/16/2014  6:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zonad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I posted both sides here....at coneca site. Not sure if I can find photo of reverse handily.
http://board.conecaonline.org/showt...d.php?t=3468
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 Posted 06/16/2014  7:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alexer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I also think the first strike is real and the after strikes are fake, there should be no rim gutter and the 2 "Es" are slightly different styles. Soft after dies lacking clarity...Just my opinion
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Did our friend in Trenton see that one, in hand Randy?
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 Posted 06/16/2014  8:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zonad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
He saw it when I sent it to be certified by CCCS.
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 Posted 06/16/2014  9:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zonad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I may be editing to comment on photos. Bare with me.
Look at the bottom right of last A in Canada and you will see the crown. Also between the lion's tail and the primary crown to see the 60 in the date. I don't understand how the field of the coin can be disturbed to show this detail and yet the legend is not disturbed by the soft dies?

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 Posted 06/16/2014  10:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The devices of the coin are hardened by the minting process, they are less malleable than either the soft die or the fields.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 06/17/2014  12:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alexer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice pics..now I'm not sure what to think.
It almost looks like the dies took multiple clashes with a coin that wasn't ejecting properly prior to striking this coin thus producing the rim indent into the die's, and creating the doubling then striking this one ...looks cool regardless thanks for sharing that one.
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 Posted 06/17/2014  10:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zonad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"The devices of the coin are hardened by the minting process, they are less malleable than either the soft die or the fields."

Seem possible/plausible but I would like to hear why and what are the mechanics.
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 Posted 06/19/2014  07:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zonad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"The devices of the coin are hardened by the minting process, they are less malleable than either the soft die or the fields."
I really thought we would get comments on this, so DBM I have to ask if this is your theory or is it somewhere that I can read about it?
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 Posted 06/19/2014  9:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add darryldarryl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Id like to help you out on this one Zonad however I'm still scratching my head on this one.
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 Posted 06/20/2014  01:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"The devices of the coin are hardened by the minting process,"
This is why it's possible to raise dates on Buffalo nickels
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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