1886-P VAM 20 Hot 50 Unc

I am sorry if you think I was being rude. I am just trying to help you. The doubling on your coin appears to be what is called die slide and not actual doubling from what I can see (even if it was true doubling it does not match the VAM 20 perfectly), unless the doubling is raised then just ignore that for now. Your date position is normal which really doesn't help much because 90% of the VAMs for 1886-P are listed with normal dates. The next thing to look at would be the die clash coming out of the neck. Do you see any clashed letters under the clash line? They will be very faint and hard to see. If you don't know what a clashed letter is look up Clashed "n" Morgan VAM on google.

Here is an example of a strong clashed n, your clash will not be as strong or noticeable. You will have to tilt the coin around in the lighting to see the "n" tick. http://www.vamworld.com/1886-P+VAM-1F

The line coming out of the neck has to match up perfectly with the VAM description photos.

Kris

I agree with Kris and others.
This is not VAM-20.
Doubling inside lower loop of 6 on VAM-20 is very prominent, for which your coin clearly don't have.

Ok I see the n now

It doesn't say anything about doubling on the loop of six being prominent it just says there is a line there and the eight with doubling 1886 thats what I took pictures of

Looks like Machine Doubling with a little die erosion sprinkled in for good measure.

To find out if this coin is in the VAM 3 family you would need to show us a good photo of the 1 in the date. The VAM 3, 3A & 3B should all have the doubled 1. VAM 3A and 3B are just later die states of the VAM 3.

If you can get a good photo of in front of the neck, the 1 in the date and a good clear reverse photo that would really help.

I have been just taking wild guesses with what you have provided. It really is not easy to attribute without clear obv and rev photos or the coin in hand. My best advice for you is to click on every single VAM and eliminate them as you go through the list. There are many VAMs listed with attributes that we would not be able to see in your photos. For instance, the VAM 1D, 1H, 1J, 1K, all have small markers that would need closeups to be viewed. There are also some others that it could be, but you will need to figure that out since you have the coin in hand and can look at all of the places up close or take closeup photos.

Your date also appears to be high, which VAM 7 is listed as a high date. You will just have to look through the list and find one that matches your coin. Even if you think you have found it, keep looking through them all so that you can learn what kind of stuff to look for in the future. Plus sometimes a VAM is listed with an attribute that can be found on more than one VAM. For instance, the VAM 3 is listed with the doubled 1 only, but the 3A & 3B also have the doubled one plus other attributes, because they are just later die states.

Here is one of your photos showing the 6 in the date. This proves you do not have the VAM 20. There is a line inside the VAM 20 "6" in the date from where the digit was either repunched, punched over another digit or something like that.

Your coin does not have the line inside the 6 and the doubled line under the one is not at the correct angle nor is the "die slide" doubling raised on your coin.



If you look back at your original photo before I added the red line to it, you will see that there is no way your coin can be the VAM 20.

Kris