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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The police will probably have to hold the coins for evidence for a while.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4416 Posts |
By prosecuting this thug to the fullest extent, you are not only helping yourself, you're helping the coin community at large. One can only speculate as to what merchandise he's stolen in the past.
Having worked in the criminal justice system, I humbly urge you to NOT be wishy-washy about the charges as this sends the wrong signals to those who seek to protect the public. Ask the DA for an "Order of Protection" to keep the thug at a distance AND, if granted, do not hesitate to report the least infraction of such an order, even a phone call. If there is eventually some conditional sentence ordered, ask the DA to attach conditions to the effect that the subject will refrain from attending any coin shows, frequenting any coin shops, coin clubs and/or any other numismatic gatherings. Then, any violation of such an order could result in the revocation of the conditional sentence, resulting in incarceration. IMHO, considering the nature of this offense, such conditions are quite reasonable.
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Valued Member
United States
94 Posts |
As a retired police officer I strongly urge you to file a police report. If you contact an attorney he/she will surely tell you to file a report. The monetary value is very high and I doubt the cops will just blow it off.
The police have access to info you don't, and they may have worked cases involving this guy before.
As to them saying it is civil, THEFT isn't a civil matter. So unless you owed him more than $80,000 the guy is nothing but a common thief.
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Valued Member
 United States
320 Posts |
Ok so here it is. I did file with the police when I first posted. The reason I hesitated was I honestly thought when confronted, he would bring them back. Then when he started with the demands, thats when I filed. I showed the police the text messages who in turn ahowed detectives. Two detectives were assigned ti the case. One if them called him while I was sitting with him. They gave him the option of bringing the coins to the police station and explaining further why he did it, OR dont bring them and he will be charged. Guess what he chose? He told the police office to go screw himself and hung up! So they went to his home and he was arrested. While there, he gave everything back to police except 2 gold $20 coins. When asked where they were he said he didnt know. Police found a fedex receipt from 8 pm last night for a box going to florida. He admitted that the package was intended for his cousin. The police contacted the cousin to ask what was being sent. The cousin said "jewelry" Fed ex was contacted and the package is being returned. They said if its the coins there is a slew of charges he can face for mailing them. I am very pleased how it was handled by the police. They charged him with theft, trespassing, extortion and hindering an investigation. I pressed full charges even though he began crying that he has a wife and kids. I felt terrible even though he did this. The police are holding everything until court in september.
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Valued Member
 United States
320 Posts |
Oh and I forgot, the dealer was contacted and is going to aupply the video of him trying to sell the coins. He was also contacted and said he would help any way he could. So there will be more charges then
There are a few other thefts in this guys file. One was 40k woth of autographs in 2007 from a store he worked in. What a pc of garbage. I'm so lucky to have gotten my grandfathers coins back. Apparently, the autographs were never recovered and he has to pay restitution.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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You are probably doing his wife and kids a favor...don't feel bad
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Glad that the ending will be a happy one! Restitution is very hard to collect especially if the perpetrator doesn't have any assets or income to go after, good thing it didn't come to that and all your coins are currently or soon to be recovered. Quote: You are probably doing his wife and kids a favor...don't feel bad 
Edited by Joe2007 08/05/2014 1:50 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Don't feel bad about pressing charges, he's using the wife and kids to try and tug at your heartstrings. He didn't think of them when he stole the coins in the first place, why should you feel bad about seeing him prosecuted for crimes he committed?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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where did all of this occur? Somerset NJ?
Edited by dsfreeworld 08/05/2014 1:55 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Seems very reckless to have posted this on a public forum. Good way to get into a slander suit.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4416 Posts |
It's most encouraging to see how speedily this is progressing.
Please, do seek that Order of Protection! Given what's been written, this offender is definitely a player; possibly now, a predicate felon. These orders can typically be extended for years. Your efforts in this case can help protect other collectors, down the line ...
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Can they get him on mail fraud, too? How much did he think you owed him? Was it even close to 80k?
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Valued Member
 United States
320 Posts |
Not worried about a slander. Never mentioned names. I hope by posting it makes every single person who reads this more cautious about there belongings. I could have lost a 40 plus year collection. Not to mention an inheritance.
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Valued Member
 United States
320 Posts |
He said he thought he desrerved around $500 in compensation for something he never did, an outside vendor did. But because he knew them he was entitled to a percent. Unreal. He also took one if my wifes watches and gave it to his as a gift last night. People are so messed up
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