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Your Opinion On 1859

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 Posted 09/01/2014  12:04 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add viper to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Ok this is a two part question. Both coins are 1859 DP9 #4

#1 how would you grade these 2 coins?

#2 If you were to only keep one witch one would it be and why? Not that I want to get rid of one because I don't sell my coins

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 Posted 09/01/2014  12:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gidjit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
both vf30 1st one has rim nick and scratches on obv., therefor I would keep #2
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 Posted 09/01/2014  12:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cownick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Seems to be an identical coin.
I agree VF-30
Coin #2 is the keeper because of the extra damage.
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 Posted 09/01/2014  4:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add colonialtokens to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Both are of comparable grade. DP #4 / Haxby 232 E 25a.
The upper photo has some scrape on Victoria's neck.
The lower photo is of a later die-state. The Die-Crack
to leaf 7 progresses into leaf 6.
I prefer the latter.

doug
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 Posted 09/02/2014  08:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nybird to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with Doug. Both of your coins also show something worth knowing about this die, in later die states it developed a die collapse right at the bottom of the 9. What looks like wear on your 9s is the begining of that die collapse. I have several coins made by this die where the 9 has almost completely dissapered. That being the case I wonder if a worn looking 9 should affect grade since on some coins it would have looked worn when the rest of the coin was mint state. Ed
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 Posted 09/02/2014  10:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Paulsz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd say EF40.
As for keeping one, I agree with the others
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 Posted 09/04/2014  06:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The first one looks VF-30 or so to me and the second one EF.

I would keep the second one, nice looking coin.
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 Posted 09/05/2014  1:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Osiris to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm no 1859 LC expert, but would have graded the second coin higher than the first. There is more noticeable wear to the left of the ear in the first coin, for instance, and in a few other places. VF30 to EF40 is my view as well.

Otherwise, the second coin is the keeper for reasons already given.
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