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Mexico - Silver - 8 Reales

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 Posted 09/12/2014  08:12 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add mikehy to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi All,

Have the following 2 coins and hoping to receive honest opinions about the two items, i.e. are they worth keeping and do they possibly have any value above bullion value.
Both have Chinese chop marks visible on them.

The first is dated 1795 -
Mexico---Silver---8-Reales

Weight 26.6 grams

The second is dated 1894 and is the ML variety -
Mexico---Silver---8-Reales

Weight 26.8 grams
Have left this coin exactly in same condition I received it in. Eye appeal not the best bust the details are not bad.

Thanks in advance for your valued input, much appreciated.

Mike.

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 Posted 09/13/2014  10:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jgenn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If genuine, the 1795 is probably worth 50-75 USD. It should weigh close to 27g. See this recent thread and this one, that discuss the edge details that a genuine 8 reales should have. There are many other threads here related to detecting counterfeit 8 reales.

Sorry, I don't study the later Mexico issues but others here can help with your cap & rays 8 reales.
~jack
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 Posted 09/13/2014  1:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
mikehy Hello and welcome

For starters all 8 reales are worth something to the right people. Even counterfeits are valuable - some far more than others.

Starting with the easier coin first the Alamos 8R appears to be genuine. It has "dragon's teeth" on the base of the cap and the other design features are all correct. You were right NOT to attempt to clean it. The coin is common but worth about $50 retail. The chops are a detriment but not serious.

The 1795 is less certain - there is a possibility of the coin being a silver imitation strike. These imitations are very difficult to identify with 100% certainty and for the past 100 years no distinction has been drawn between genuine and imitations because of the problems related to identification.

There are many threads that discuss the situation already.

I raise this as an issue because the coin displays significant central weakness details and the letters all seem slightly too thick to be genuine. Many of the imitation coins were made with dies prepared by image transfer techniques of various types and many result in slight thickening of details. In the current market the price is unaffected by the distinction between genuine and imitation. As scientific testing continues and we can approximate the relative populations of each type - we may see a alteration of the pricing as one group is proven to be less common than the other.
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 Posted 09/16/2014  2:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Westwood Arms to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think the 1795 is real (regal). The lettering is mushy. The date especially the 7 and the 9 is not right. The D in IND is too large.
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