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Day Fifty-Eight - Gold Commemoratives / 1901-1910 / Part I

I've made another "executive decision" regarding the thread and have modified the presentation order of the classic era gold commemoratives. Rather than present them by denomination, I've decided to group them by decade which should balance out the number of coins displayed each day.

First up is the decade 1901-1910.


1903 Louisiana Purchase Exposition

Why issued?

1) To commemorate the Louisiana Purchase Exposition (LPE) to be held in St. Louis, Missouri to mark the centennial of the 1803 Louisiana Purchase (from France).
2) To help the Louisiana Purchase Exposition Company raise funds to stage the Exposition.


Denomination

$1.00


Design // Designer

Two coins were struck for the LPE; they share a common reverse design.

Coin 1: Thomas Jefferson

Obverse:. Left-facing portrait of Thomas Jefferson, the 3rd President of the United States. Jefferson was president at the time of the Louisiana Purchase. // Charles E. Barber assisted by George T. Morgan

Reverse: Commemorative inscriptions/dates separated by an olive branch. // Charles E. Barber assisted by George T. Morgan


Coin 2: William McKinley

Obverse:. Left-facing portrait of William McKinley, the 25th President of the United States. McKinley was in office from 1897 to 1901 and signed the legislation that sanctioned the LPE and authorized Congress to make a $5 million appropriation in support of it. // Charles E. Barber assisted by George T. Morgan

Reverse: Commemorative inscriptions/dates separated by an olive branch. // Charles E. Barber assisted by George T. Morgan


Estimated Net Mintages:

Jefferson: 17,375
McKinley: 17,375


Original Selling Prices:

$3.00 per coin


Quick Facts:

Using the precedent established for the World's Columbian Exposition coins, the LPE Company requested that Congress supply part of its appropriation for the Exposition in the form of gold commemorative coins rather than straight funding. Congress obliged and authorized the minting of 250,000 gold dollars for the Company.

The assassination of President William McKinley at the 1901 Pan-American Exposition held in Buffalo, New York was the catalyst behind the "double issue" of LPE gold dollars. The authorizing legislation for the LPE coins did not specify the number of design types allowed. Originally, just the Jefferson design was planned. However, McKinley's assassination led to discussions of how to honor the fallen leader and one method chosen was to create a second design type for the LPE coins and place his portrait on it.


I do not yet own either of the LPE gold coins (they're on my list for 2015!) so I have featured images courtesy of Heritage Auctions.

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Though I don't yet own one of the coins, I do have several US Mint struck commemoratives for the LPE. I've included one of them here, a high-grade example of the Official Souvenir medal in silver.

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Day Fifty-Eight: Gold Commemoratives / 1901-1910 / Part II

1904-05 Lewis & Clark Centennial

Why issued?

1) To commemorate the 1905 Lewis and Clark Centennial Exposition (L&CE) being held in Portland, Oregon to mark the centennial of the Lewis and Clark expedition of 1804-06.
2) To help the Lewis and Clark Centennial and American Pacific Exposition and Oriental Fair Company (Wow! What a mouthful!) raise funds to stage the Exposition.


Denomination

$1.00


Design // Designer

Obverse:. Left-facing portrait of Meriwether Lewis. // Charles E. Barber

Reverse: Left-facing portrait of William Clark. // Charles E. Barber


Net Mintages:

1904: 9,997
1905: 10,000


Original Selling Price:

$2.00 per coin


Quick Fact:

It is generally accepted that Barber used the portraits of Lewis and Clark that were painted by noted American artist Charles Willson Peale as the models for the coins. I've included images of each painting below.

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I do not yet own an example of the L&CE gold coin (it's also on my list for 2015!) so I have featured images courtesy of Heritage Auctions.

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Though I don't yet own an example of the coin, I do have several US Mint struck commemorative pieces for the L&CE. I've included one of them here, a high-grade example of the Official Souvenir medal in gold-plated bronze.

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As a young collector I was able to examine some dollar gold coins of my grandmother. The Lewis and Clark was one of them. I was impressed that it was a two headed coin and she was impressed at the estimated value. She sold it but gave me a 1853 gold dollar.
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Hooray that I have internet service again - pleased to rejoin the discussion.

Hopeful to see some gold commemoratives ...

Best of wishes commems in your 2015 acquisition objectives.

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@nickelsearcher: How about I push back the final installment of the thread one day to Tuesday and give you (and others) Monday to use as a "catch up" day for the posting of any coins/stories that were missed while your service was out.

OK with you?


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Day Fifty-Nine: Gold Commemoratives / 1911-1920 / Part I


1915 Panama-Pacific International Exposition

Why issued?

1) To commemorate the 1915 Panama-Pacific International Exposition held in San Francisco, California. The Expo was held to mark the 100th anniversary of the completion of the Panama Canal.
2) To help the Panama-Pacific International Exposition Company raise funds to stage the Exposition.


Denominations

$1.00
$2.50
$50.00


Designs // Designers

$1.00 Coin

Obverse:. Left-facing portrait of a Panama Canal worker. // Charles Keck

Reverse: Two dolphins, symbolic of the coming together of the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans, encircling the denomination. // Charles Keck


$2.50 Coin

Obverse:. Columbia facing to the right while riding sidesaddle upon a mythical hippocampus (from the Ancient Greek, "hippos" meaning "horse" and "kampos" meaning "sea monster") that is diving to the left; she is holding a caduceus. Columbia represents the United States, the hippocampus is meant to be symbolic of commerce through the canal and the caduceus calls to mind the battles fought against yellow fever during the canal's construction. // Charles E. Barber

Reverse: Left-facing American (Bald) Eagle with raised wings standing upon a pedestal bearing the inscription E Pluribus Unum. // George T. Morgan


$50.00 Coins

Obverse:. Minerva, the Roman goddess of wisdom, commerce and medicine (among other things), facing left and wearing a helmet. // Robert I. Aitken

Reverse: An owl, symbolic of wisdom, standing on a pine tree branch with visible cones. // Robert I. Aitken

Note: The Octagonal version of the coin adds dolphins in each "corner" on both sides.


Net Mintages:

$1.00: 15,000
$2.50: 6,749
$50.00 - Round: 483
$50.00 - Octagonal: 645


Original Selling Prices:

$1.00: $2.00
$2.50: $4.00
$50.00 - Round: $100.00
$50.00 - Octagonal: $100.00


Quick Facts:

The coins for the Pan-Pac Exposition were the first US commemorative pieces to be struck at the San Francisco Mint.

The authorizing legislation for the coins called for a total of 3,000 gold $50 pieces, with "one-half of the issue...similar in shape to the octagonal $50 gold pieces issued in California in eighteen hundred and fifty-one."

If both types of the $50 gold coin were purchased, the three lower denomination coins were included at no charge, as was either a leather or copper frame case. Today, the copper frame cases routinely sell for several thousand dollars when they are available.


Here are images of the coins, courtesy of Heritage Auctions:

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There aren't any Pan-Pac gold coins in my collection yet, just nice examples of the Official Souvenir medals from the Exposition. Here's my gilt example:

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Day Fifty-Nine: Gold Commemoratives / 1911-1920 / Part II


1916-17 McKinley Memorial

Why issued?

1) To commemorate the erection of a memorial to William McKinley in Niles, Ohio, his birthplace. McKinley was the 25th President of the United States; he was assassinated in 1901.
2) To help the National McKinley Birthplace Memorial Association raise funds to help complete the memorial.


Denomination

$1.00


Design // Designer

Obverse:. Left-facing portrait of a William McKinley. // Charles E. Barber

Reverse: The central columned façade of the Birthplace Memorial building. The statue of McKinley at the Memorial can be seen through the middle columns. // George T. Morgan


Net Mintages:

1916: 9,977
1917: 10,000


Original Selling Prices:

1916: $3.00
1917: $3.00


Quick Facts:

The McKinley Birthplace Memorial was constructed on a site that was the location of a one-room schoolhouse attended by McKinley.

McKinley was the first person to have his portrait featured on two different US coins; McKinley had previously been depicted on the 1903 Louisiana Purchase gold dollar.


Here are images of the coin, courtesy of Heritage Auctions:

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As long as there are no objections from the membership - I would be able to utilize a final 'catch up' day.

The only official medal in my collection is a chocolate brown surfaces 1915 HK-401. I enjoy the imagery of the Robert Aitken design - a name familiar to commemorative fans not only for the $50 Pan-Pacific pieces but also for his powerful design of the 1921 Missouri Centennial half dollar.

I'll snap a photo to share when I get home from work (Yes - I know it is a Saturday).

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I have not expanded my collecting interests into the So- Called Dollars (SC$1) - although there are many collectors who enjoy this fascinating series of medals.

I do own one example - a bronze HK-401 SC$1 issued in 1915 commemorating the Panama-Pacific International Exposition.

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Lovely chocolate brown surfaces with pocket piece wear ... perhaps carried for a bit by the original owner as a souvenir of the exposition?

Seems natural to me to be attracted to a used example.

Alas the medal is beginning to suffer from bronze-coin disease on the obverse - need to figure out a remediation strategy.

As mentioned in my prior post - I was attracted to this medal by the visual power of Robert Aitken design. It would take Dan Brown's fictional character Robert Langdon to explain all the symbols present in the medal.

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Day Sixty: Gold Commemoratives / 1921-1930 / Part I


1922 Grant Memorial

Why issued?

1) To commemorate the 100th anniversary of the birth of Ulysses S. Grant, graduate of the US Military Academy at West Point, General in Chief of the Union Forces during the US Civil War and 18th President of the United States.
2) To help the Ulysses S. Grant Centenary Memorial Commission raise funds for the building of community centers in Georgetown, Ohio and Bethel, Ohio as memorials to the former President and Civil War General.


Denomination

$1.00


Design // Designer

Obverse:. A right-facing portrait of Grant. A second variety was created via the addition of an incuse star above "Grant." // Laura Gardin Fraser

Reverse: The frame house in Point Pleasant, Ohio in which Grant was born. // Laura Gardin Fraser


Net Mintages:

Plain: 5,000
Star: 5,000


Original Selling Prices:

Plain: $3.00
Star: $3.50


Quick Facts:

Multiple bills calling for Grant Memorial coins were introduced in Congress in 1921. The legislation ultimately approved for the coin authorized a total of 10,000 gold dollars and 250,000 silver 50-cent pieces. A competing bill, however, sought 200,000 gold dollars without any corresponding silver coins.

The design used for the gold dollar is the same design used for its silver 50-cent counterpart (with the appropriate change in denomination).


Here are images of the coins, courtesy of Heritage Auctions:

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Day Sixty: Gold Commemoratives / 1921-1930 / Part II


1926 American Independence Sesquicentennial

Why issued?

1) To commemorate the 150th anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence.
2) To help raise funds for the Sesquicentennial Exhibition Association to support its staging of the 1926 International Exposition held in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.


Denomination

$2.50


Design // Designer

Obverse:. Liberty standing on a globe with the Torch of Freedom in her right hand and a scroll representative of the Declaration of Independence in her left. // John R. Sinnock

Reverse: Independence Hall in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. // John R. Sinnock


Net Mintage:

46,019


Original Selling Prices:

$4.00


Quick Facts:

The original proposal for the American Independence coinage called for 500,000 gold $1.50 coins and one million silver half dollars. Before the bill became law, the gold denomination was changed to the more traditional $2.50 and its maximum mintage reduced to 200,000.

The 1926 gold quarter eagle was the last gold commemorative coin of the classic era.


Here are images of the coin, courtesy of Heritage Auctions:

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I've also included my example housed in a custom holder:

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Very nice Sesquicentennial presentation holder commems.

I do not own any gold commemorative - perhaps someday. My favorite of the series is the $2.50 piece issued for the Panama-Pacific exposition.

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Day Sixty-One: Catch Up Day

One last day to post the coin(s) that you didn't get the chance to share during its moment in the "Days of" sun.

Show us what we've missed!

My contribution today is a coin that I collect as part of my classic commemorative set but one that not all collectors of the series view as a legitimate member. For that reason, I didn't give it a "day" to itself!


1932 George Washington Birth Bicentennial

Why issued?

To commemorate the 200th anniversary of the birth of George Washington.


Design // Designer

Obverse:. Left-facing portrait of George Washington based on the bust sculpted by the French sculptor Jean-Antoine Houdon. // John Flanagan

Reverse: An American (Bald) Eagle with outstretched wings perched on a bundle of arrows; two intertwined olive branches anchor the design. // John Flanagan


Net Mintage:

1932: 5,404,000
1932-D: 436,800
1932-S: 408,000


Original Selling Prices:

1932: $0.25
1932-D: $0.25
1932-S: $0.25


Quick Facts:

The legislation authorizing the Washington quarter specified that is was to be issued in 1932 to commemorate Washington's birth and then continue on as the standard US 25-cent piece in circulation.

Multiple commemorative coinage bills to honor Washington were introduced in Congress. One called for a $3.00 gold coin, while another proposed design changes for the 10-cent, 25-cent and 50-cent coins. At the suggestion of the Treasury, a bill calling for a new quarter was introduced and ultimately approved.

The George Washington Bicentennial Commission held an open design competition for its commemorative medal. The contest rules specified that the Houdon bust of Washington should be used as the basis for Washington's portrait in all submitted designs.

The designs submitted by Laura Gardin Fraser won the medal competition and were also the choice of the Fine Arts Commission for the new quarter. The Mint/Treasury held a separate competition, however, and Treasury Secretary Andrew Mellon selected the designs of John Flanagan over Fraser's.

Fraser's designs finally appeared in 1999 on the gold half eagle issued to mark the 200th anniversary of Washington's death.


Here's a link to a previous post I did about the "Washington" commemorative quarter: https://goccf.com/t/125621#1096311


Here are images of my raw coin...someday I will submit it to PCGS to have it graded/encapsulated. Note: The coin is a lustrous example that looks totally washed out here due to it being scanned vs. imaged via a camera.

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@ commems - Your Washington quarter is an appropriate selection for 'catch up' day ... and a reminder that it was indeed originally conceived and issued as a silver commemorative.

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This reply was originally intended to post on Wild Card Wednesday 11/19 .... alas my internet service crashed at that time.

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The contribution for today's Wild Card Wednesday will be my experiences pursuing the theme of circulated classic silver commemorative ... in hopes that it might inform you ... and perhaps even perhaps inspire a similar pursuit someday.

Circulated versus MS Commemoratives

I have collected both type sets ... well ... 99% of both type sets. Still need an honestly circulated York County.

Very proud of my current MS silver commemorative type set - it is a set that has taken me many years and significant financial investment to acquire.

To brag on it just for a bit ... 49 of the 50 coins are PCGS/CAC certified (searching for a Hawaiian MS65/CAC upgrade) and the set is currently ranked #21 in the PCGS set registry.

The MS coins bring me great joy to view and tremendous collecting satisfaction - no issues at all with the MS set pursuit.

It is not - however - my commemorative collecting passion.

Consider the following logic ...

There are many coins in my MS set that will never be upgraded - they fully meet my needs/aesthetic while also recognizing the practical reality that ... in many cases ... should a 'better' coin even become available it would likely be prohibitively expensive.

Consider as well the fact that collectors have been searching the available raw MS commemorative for many years - and rightfully claiming as prizes the top pop certified MS coins.

I consider it highly unlikely that an MS69 Vancouver half is waiting out there somewhere to be 'discovered' ...

Therein lies my rub with the MS coins - pursuit of the MS coins generally lacks the potential for a world-class raw find - minimizing the thrill of the numismatic treasure hunt.

I am a treasure hunter by nature ... always enjoying pursuing the unusual finds. Walks in the woods looking for cool stuff - walks through the bourse looking for cool coins.

I'll never hold out hope to find that MS69 Vancouver half raw - but I can (and do) hold hope to find the only FR02 Vancouver raw!

Currently at PCGS for the wizards views -

1925 Fort Vancouver Centennial Half Dollar - Raw (FR02)

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Therein lies the special joy (for me) of pursuing the circulated classic silver commemorative series - a never ending numismatic treasure hunt for these tremendous coins .... overlooked by many - a pursuit that will never end and the thrill of the hunt that will continue forever.

Contrast that with MS coins that I mostly never expect to upgrade and except for a handful am not not actively search for.

Not a day goes by when I do not invest some time searching for these coins in honestly circulated state.

Circulated Commemorative Pursuit for Todays Collector

For me ... there is a special joy with holding the circulated examples from this tremendous set. The knowledge that they were not intended for circulation use conjures great stories of 'how they came to be'.

Pursuit of this set requires patience and dedication to the hunt - the very reason the pursuit is so appealing to me.

There are five primary considerations for today's collector of circulated classic commemorative - discussed below:

Market Availability

During an earlier post in this thread, I suggested that the 50-coin silver commemorative type set could be broadly thought of to have occurred in three distinct eras.

Current market availability of circulated examples fits well into that model.

Pre-Depression era (1892 - 1928). This era of silver commemorative contributed 20 type coins (plus the Norse medal). With the notable exceptions of the Fort Vancouver and Hawaiian issues, all of these coins are readily available today in honestly circulated state.

I am confident that an interested modern collector could acquire the 18 'common' circulated coins from this era within a few months of dedicated searching.

Commemorative Craze era (1934 - 1938). This era contributed an astonishing 27 silver type coins in only 4 years - the abuses of which conspired to essentially end the classic series.

With only a few exceptions (Texas, Long Island and Bay Bridge) circulated examples of these coins are exceedingly difficult to find today.

Many of the coins appear only once every few years - if at all.

This era contains the five stoppers that I discussed during their respective days. These are extremely rare coins that in my judgment might never come available over a collector's lifetime.

Post-Craze era (1946 - 1954). The 3 silver commemorative type coins from this era are readily available today in circulated state and can be thought of analogous to the Pre-Depression era in terms of market availability.

Surface Condition

A sad fact of life for the modern collector of these coins in honestly circulated state is that many of the examples - once located - are not honestly circulated.

Cleaning and damage have rendered a large portion of the surviving examples un-certifiable - they will receive a details grade at any reputable TPG.

I set the personal standard for my set that all the circulated coins need to be in PCGS problem free holders - not because of any special endearment to PCGS ... I did this in response to the challenge of maintain a 'clean' collection in the face of so many 'details' coins.

Imagine the frustration of finally locating a very rare circulated example - then to have your collecting hopes dashed by the realization that the coin had been abused by a prior owner.

Such is the state of affairs for the modern collector of these coins in honestly circulated state.

PCGS Grading Variability

I know - it's easy and convenient to bash the TPG's.

In the specific case of their judgment relative to assigning a technical grade to these seldom seen circulated coins - I have ample evidence from many occasions that the results are very inconsistent.

I can only reason that many of these coins are so rarely submitted that the TPG institutional knowledge to consistently assign grades is lacking.

Consider the following case study - I am not making this up!

1935 Arkansas Centennial Half Dollar - PCGS (Revealed Below)

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I purchased the coin raw from an ebay auction. Once in hand need to go through the checklist - authentic? (check) - original surfaces? (check) - rare coin? (check).

Assign my own likely technical grade based on my experience - I thought F12/F15.

Off to the wizards it goes - answer was PCGS VF25. What?

Crack out - off the wizards it goes again - answer was PCGS VF20. What?

Crack out - off to the wizards it goes again - answer was PCGS VF30. WHAT?

Crack out - off to the wizards it goes again. The coin is finally in a proper PCGS F15 holder.

That is time consuming, expensive and frustrating - and I have had to do this dance with the PCGS wizards on many coins in the set that they simply did not get right.

Then - you need to take the time to send back all those 'wrong' labels to keep the population report straight.

Price

Circulated examples of the 'common' silver commemorative in the VF/XF range can certainly be acquired for lower cost than their respective MS brethren.

There are many good reasons to acquire these coins - eye appeal being a primary motivator for many. An honestly circulated XF range coin with circulation cameo surfaces is a stunning addition to any set - at an affordable price point for 7070 use or other collecting interests.

commems visually stunning XF45 Roanoke Island is such an example (though not a 'common' circulated commemorative) - I would say the same regarding HONDO outstanding XF45 (ex PCGS) Long Island.

However - that pricing reality does not apply to the truly cherished lowball coins when they come available.

There are enough collectors dedicated to this circulated series that an inverse pricing model applies at true lowball grade.

I can only imagine the bidding interest if a PCGS AG03 Spanish Trail were to be found, certified and then made available on say Heritage (such a beast does not exist BTW). The coin would surely hammer above MS66 greysheet price.

Collector Camaraderie

Enjoyment of the numismatic hobby is greatly enhanced when there are opportunities to interact with other collectors who are journeying on the same niche path.

There is a small but dedicated set of collectors who are passionate for these coins - and we maintain regular contact amongst ourselves ... cheering the occasional finds and generally being supportive of each other.

There are occasional bidding wars amongst ourselves for coins made publically available ... but once the auction ends we maintain a mutual respect for each other and carry on.

I am appreciative of their friendship and time spent interacting during the long dry spells that are inevitable during this joyous and never ending 'quest'.

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This reply was originally intended to post on Thursday 11/20 - alas my internet service crashed at that time.

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The final member of the 144-coin classic silver commemorative set, and the final USA commemorative coin issued until 1982.

1952-S Carver-Washington Half Dollar - PCGS MS66/CAC

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Lovely white surfaces with booming luster. Easily available today in gem MS state.

1952 Carver-Washington Half Dollar - PCGS VG08

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Unusual surface toning on a well worn example.

Circulated examples of this type coin in the XF range are readily available today. The 1952 Philly mint coin appears most commonly - a testament to it's overwhelming mintage relative to the other GWC issues.

PCGS has certified 14 GWC type coins (all years combined) below AU. There are hundreds if not thousands more examples out there raw.

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Alto the 1982 Washington Half is considered part of the modern commemoratives I have it housed in my Whittman album next in line of the continuing issues. I include it as it is coined in silver and all but one of the succeeding halves are in a clad composition.

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All good things must come to an end.

It was fun and informative.

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