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Real Great Britain 1869 1 Florin Victoria Silver?

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 Posted 10/05/2014  09:24 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Gothic to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Nice for a raw coin and sold by a dealer.

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Noted the large scratch or whatever on reverse at ten o'clock. Looks almost too good to be true or maybe I have been looking at too many beaters?

Thank you.

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 Posted 10/05/2014  10:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add greeniejim to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it is REAL....why would Aspencoins list it at such a low start price?
I do genuinely believe if...
it looks too good to be true....
It probably is.
Id tred carefully
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 Posted 10/05/2014  10:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Valecrucis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very often good ebay dealers will list fairly expensive coins with a £0.99 starting price. Others start higher. I don't think it should automatically raise suspicion. There is an argument that it attracts more attention and higher realised prices in the end.
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 Posted 10/05/2014  11:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gothic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good point--I think Aspen starts everything at 99 cents.

I wonder if Eastern Fantasy LLC has progressed to the low mintage florin "miao" producing or at least tooling? If anyone has any insight, thanks--I wasn't planning on bidding on this as I try to avoid big dealer auctions, but wanted to know for future reference.
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 Posted 10/05/2014  6:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think that the "scratch" is a die-crack.

I've dealt with Aspen several times over the years, and have had no issues.
I think that they usually start their auctions at $0.99.
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I think that the "scratch" is a die-crack.

Shame the images can't be enlarged as it looks like it has a line of damage on the Obv from about 2.30 - 4 O'clock, but impossible to be sure without closer piccies.
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 Posted 10/05/2014  7:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add peter1234 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I always start my listings at 99p.
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Seems to be a radial die crack on the reverse at 10'oclock.
In the British grading system, this is a VF coin, (still nice to the eye however).
There is a big jump between VF and EF (British) values.

Gothic florins saw LOTS of circulation, they replaced 1/2 crowns during their issue and as a result, are very scarce (in an absolute sence), in EF and better.

I guess that most of the very poor grade Gothic florins have long since been melted, and so Unc. coins are only RELATIVELY scarce to the lower grade examples these days.

They have great relevence to Australian coinagage history, because only British silver and bronze coins circulated 1825 to 1910.
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 Posted 10/06/2014  05:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add peter1234 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The obverse always appeared to wear quickly.
Top quality coins EF+ are a premium.
Any obverse with good hair detail will be sought after.I'm glad I'm a type collector.
Beware of any 1864 die 4,these are swamping the market and are Chinese.
On another forum we discovered a scum bag was selling 2 a month making BIG money.We also found his supplier.
He was hounded by forum members and reported to ebay.He was also selling 1847 gothics.
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 Posted 10/07/2014  3:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gothic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow--that thing has gone in orbit!!
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