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Identify Ancient Coin (Constantinople Mint?)

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 Posted 11/09/2014  9:20 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add br3nnan to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi everyone,

I found this coin when I was very young and do not even remember where I found it but it was somewhere in the dirt in Canada BC. Anyway I am not sure what era its really from it seems to be from the Constantinople mint but I cannot be sure. I have looked through thousands of pictures and see many similar ones but nothing identicle.

I doubt its worth anything due to its shape but would love to know more about it. If anyone can help please do!

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 Posted 11/09/2014  9:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Medieval to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin does have the mint mark SMTS marking it to be from Thessalonica (see http://tjbuggey.ancients.info/mints.html).
The CONSTAN... on the obverse is the beginning of the Emperor's name.
Please post clearer/closer pictures to enable a full identification (no need to waste space around it).
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 Posted 11/09/2014  10:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add br3nnan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the clarification. I am not sure if these are really any better the condition of the coin is not great. Not to mention my camera is not amazing.



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 Posted 11/09/2014  10:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to the community.

If you can provide a little larger and clearer pictures it would gives us a better chance for an ID. I believe it might be Constans. The coin has some dirt that can be easily removed with some warm water and a soft brush. Be sure you dry it well afterward. For further cleaning you will need to soak it in either distilled water or olive oil. But for the time being I think just a was will remove most of the dirt. Once you have done that than post some larger pictures.
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 Posted 11/09/2014  10:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Medieval to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Relying on 'echizento's expertise on the portraits and how I read the legends, I would say that it is:

Constans AE4 of Thessalonica. CONSTANS-PF AVG, pearl-diademed, draped, cuirassed bust right / VICTORIAE DD AVGGQ NN, Two Victories facing each other, each holding wreaths and palm branches. Palm branch upright in lower centre. Mintmark SMTS Gamma. RIC VIII Thessalonica 106.

With the Gamma (apart for a little tip of the left top corner) off the flan - description copied from the Wildwinds entry.
(Instead of Gamma it could also be another officina letter though.)

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First &
yes, the larger picture helped to nail down the obverse legend, was able to make out the 'PF AVG' - if you look closely you see the 'F" at 3 o'clock with the 'P' above it and the 'AVG' below, the 'G' as so often just looking like a 'C'.
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 Posted 11/09/2014  10:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arnoldoe to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
on the back it has two victories facing each other. looks similar to this one

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 Posted 11/09/2014  10:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add br3nnan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
wow that's awesome guys, appreciate the help. Definitely know your stuff because I could barely make any characters out! haha.
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Even though I know it was probably someone much more recently had this coin and dropped it or something, its still interesting to hear when an ancient coin is found somewhere it isn't normally supposed to be. Wish I was lucky to find an ancient coin where I live.
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This one is actually Constantius II - the second T is just visible and the legend length supports this (CONSTANTIVS PF AVG)
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