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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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We are using pictures only to make a judgement.
My judgement? Pressure cast copy.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Maybe this will help? here are 2 of my 48s to compare with. both are ICCS certified. I believe the 4 and the 8 are different in the subject coin. Have not looked for other markers. However, please apply the benefit of doubt, considering a possible bad scan or photo image. You guys decide and form your own opinion. It looks like the ebay seller might be a member here, as his ad, I believe, is on the top of this page on this forum. The Lebanon fakes are the best ever hitting the market. They ( 3 of them) produced a lot of high end coins, all metals, and they did not discriminate by countries. Even the "above all" Swiss bank were fooled by the Swiss "coin" replicas they produced and bought and sold them. One of the 3 forgers was a ex Swiss banker, the other a US Citizen and a Lebanese.  Edited by 47P7
12/15/2014 11:58 am
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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47P7: do you know where I could get more info on these lebonese fakes? Pictures if possible? I'd really like to see them... and learn more about them. I'm sure that some of these fakes are still in others collections and eventually those collections will come back to market.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
1505 Posts |
I hope.. I still have all this stuff on an old disk. will search for it during the holidays.
sorry, that is the best I can do right know. there are 8 Cds and a few DVDs as well as some of the old Zip drives. If I find it, great, if not, welllllllll
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
3049 Posts |
When looking at the 3 samples you have provided the one that doesn't look like the others is B
- The shape of the 4 is slightly different
- There is very little detail in the "packs in the canoe"
- The "L" in dollar looks a bit different (smooshy is the word that comes to mind) when looking at the top of the serifs
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
548 Posts |
The 4 & the 8 in example B are definitely different.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I blew up the subject's date along with mine, also from a scan. Sorry for minor rotation on mine. I don't see enough to condemn based on such a bad image; it almost seems like the seller's scanner distorted the image. Note how the 1 seems to lean left.  |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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i think the seller should work on getting some better images on such an expensive coin . I agree comparing with mine the 4 just doesn't look quite right although it could just be the poor image...if it is fake I would believe the seller didnt know himself... Quote:
When I buy a high value coin, I make sure it was slabbed. This removes any doubt about authenticity . i wouldnt be so quick to buy a certified coin assuming its real because it has been certified... the chinese also make fake slabs that look real good also,,,,always buy the coin not the holder! |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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seller said he compared this coin with others he has and could not find a difference. check his web site via the ebay listing. Gidijt you are correct, unfortunately. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Here's a different 1948 from seller's website. I could argue the 4 and 8 also look suspicious. It's ICCS MS62. Buy the coin, not the photo, I guess.  |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Coins are guaranteed to be authentic unless clearly listed in the item description.
We will guarantee our grades to accurate. If your not happy with our opinion please return the coin within 7 days I think that with these two points that the seller has made on their web page they aren't trying to pull the wool over anyone's eyes... So it is my belieft that either this coin is not real and the seller doesn't know. Or this coin is real and the pictures aren't doing the coin justice. I guess if I were going to be buying a '48 dollar and this is the one I decided upon.. I would send it in to get slabbed .... or arrange the seller to get it graded prior to purchase.. in either case if it came back in a body bag it wouldn't buy it or return for a refund! |
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Valued Member
Canada
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I know this seller and his mentor (who specializes in
counterfeits). I do not believe either would sell a bogus
coin.
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Valued Member
 Canada
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As I mentioned, way back in the beginning of this thread, there are a number of indicators I spotted, not just the 4...the 4 was what initially caught my attention. Thanks 47P7 for the comparison image...you have far greater digital imagery skills (and perhaps, patience) than I do. I too know of this seller and I don't believe he would knowingly offer up a counterfeit piece for sale. But, it just further demonstrates that no matter how experienced someone may be, or how golden their reputation may be, counterfeits always seem to find cracks to fall into. An example that I noted on another thread recently: there were a couple fake gold lots spotted by a prospective buyer sitting adjacent to me at the Geoffrey Bell auction viewing table. If he hadn't brought the fakes to the auctioneer's attention, the fakes would have been auctioned off that evening.
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Rest in Peace
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If it is a fake..They are pretty darn accurate..see picture below.  |
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Moderator
 Canada
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I was sort of keeping quiet on this one... but here is a big clue...
Study the serifs on both the obverse and reverse legends... (hint: start with the N of CANADA on the reverse).
"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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