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 Posted 01/02/2015  11:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cindy Wood to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Not the best close ups but maybe you can see what you need to see
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 Posted 01/02/2015  11:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That works great. It is the real deal.
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 Posted 01/02/2015  11:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cindy Wood to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not bad for pocket change find I guess
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Very nice pocket find. That makes a couple very nice pocket finds for members here over the past week or so. And so the title of the book: Strike It Rich: With Pocket Change. I never make exact change when making a purchase. You never know what the cashier will hand you.
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Not bad at all.
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 Posted 01/03/2015  06:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice,congrats Cindy. I have yet to find any rotated die coins.
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Thats an excellent find, I found a 104 degree rotated Canadian nickel in MS+ condition when I first started out in coins. I got $239. for it on ebay. It was a 2007 and I wish I kept it now, cause I sure haven't found anything even close since..lol
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 Posted 01/03/2015  10:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
coop,
Would a magician coin weigh less then a normal coin and would it sound different doing the drop test? If so then that would be two good indicators right?
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 Posted 01/03/2015  10:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Correct.
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So what advise do you have now? How can I authenticate it and get it listed as a new discovery?
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It would not be a new discovery. But it is one you might like to have slabbed if you were going to sell it. If not make sure to keep it safe in a special place. It would be a coin with a premium for it. Slabbing would give you a grade that you could use when you sell it.
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Thanks Coop for your answers and advise. I have learned a lot in this forum via your posts
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I was told in another thread that In numismatics we measure the smallest degree of rotation from the 12 o'clock position because the die could have rotated either direction, is this true?
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Not sure how it is figured. But the obverse or reverse die could have been loaded incorrectly. Good question for Mike Diamond?
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The way I've always practiced it, and the way I've always seen it done begins with the reverse design pointing south, which is the position you find the reverse face when you flip a coin from left to right. Any die rotation error is then assessed from 1 - 180 degrees, clockwise or counterclockwise. Any rotation toward a clock position greater than 6:00 is considered a clockwise rotation. Any rotation toward a clock position less than 6:00 is considered a counterclockwise rotation.

Naturally, identifying a die rotation error as a rotation of the reverse face relative to the obverse face is simply a convention adopted for the sake of convenience. In any simple die rotation error, there is no way to determine which die rotated. However, die rotation errors combined with other errors almost always implicate the hammer die.
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