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1503 K-H Hungarian Denar under King Wladislaus II. This is the earliest dated Hungarian Denar;there were some larger denominations dated,but I don't have any. There is one denar dated 1501,but it is an error and should be 1510;I also don't have that. I do have a 1500 Salzburg pfennig that is dated. There seems to be more people with pre-1600 dated coins on this edition than the last.   Edited by EddieDiz
11/28/2016 2:19 pm
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Although I have not contributed lately, I continue to enjoy following this thread and seeing what is 'out there' in the realm of early dated coins.
There is so much to be learned from these postings. A hearty cheer for all the efforts and time invested by those who own these small treasures of bygone eras.
If there is ever a *next* edition and it gets to the XVIth century, I just *might* have found the time to locate, organize and photograph the bit of stuff I've not yet shown here.
One thing that continues to puzzle my coin-focused mind, is why there exists an evident sudden increase in the practice of putting dates on coins, that seems to have happened in the very late 15th or early 16th century. Any theories?
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EddieDiz, For The Win.  Quote:
If there is ever a *next* edition and it gets to the XVIth century, I just *might* have found the time to locate, organize and photograph the bit of stuff I've not yet shown here. I will start a Fourth Edition after the new year, if and only if this one catches up to the Second (1491). |
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I will start a Fourth Edition after the new year, if and only if this one catches up to the Second Based on postings to the Frey/Levinson thread in the Ancients section, it looks like we should have all years covered back to 1492, except for 1495. |
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I think 1495 was a sticker both previous times. I am sure we can prod them to re-post.  |
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@mysilveryears, I'm really glad that you are enjoying the recent postings. I think that it is a relatively small group of us on CCF that actually collect early AD-dated coinage, but I'm hoping to broaden the appeal of this subject matter. With regard to your question about the sudden appearance of dated coins in the early to mid 1400s that became nearly universal by the mid to late 1500s, I would like to quote Robert Levinson from The Early Dated Coins of Europe: Quote:
The decision to date coins lacked any uniformity and virtually no contemporaneous resource materials exist explaining the reasons that mintmasters or rulers decided to begin dating their coinage when it had been previously undated. In a footnote, Levinson notes that the Burgundian Netherlands in particular kept pretty meticulous notes about their mints, but remained silent on grading vs. not-grading. He points to Spuffrd's book, Monetary Problems and Policies in the Burgundian Netherlands 1433-1496 as a resource for continued study. I haven't read this book so I cannot recommend it specifically, though. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
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Gottingen -- MCCCCCII = 1502 körtling (Krause MB#1):   |
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@pepactonius, that Koertling is in amazing shape! Here is a Witten from the German City of Luenenburg. The attribution is Saurma 3450. I really like how two mints in Germany could express the same year so differently. The year (1502 AD) is written as "17.Z" on mine.   "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
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Brandenburg groschen, Joachim and Albrecht. Date format #3.   |
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The year (1502 AD) is written as "17.Z" on mine.
On tomorrow's 1501 kreuzgroschen (cross-groat?) we'll see the date written as 170I, where the 7 has a couple of extra indentations on the horizontal arm. |
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Some very nice contributions and enlightening commentary today.  |
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Hannover -- 1501 Kreuzgroschen (Krause MB#2, Saurma 3823):   |
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