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Just a thought, but has anyone looked for an Islamic coin from 896 AH? Per the rules, other calendar systems are permissible.
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That is correct. I am sure someone has. Anyone?  |
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has anyone looked for an Islamic coin from 896 AH? Sure, but I guess in my mind it wouldn't help. Maybe I'm being too much of a stickler, but the first couple months of AH 896 correspond to 1490 AD, so a coin minted in AH 896 could belong to either 1490 or 1491 AD. There certainly are some years where the overlap between calendars is almost a perfect 1:1, but just not this one. My Two Cents anyway. @jbuck, it is your thread so you can make the call. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
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"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
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We have always allowed AH dates and used the CE year in which there is a majority overlap.
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Ah ok that is good to know. Thanks for the clarification.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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As I noted on page 234, a few months ago... Quote:
As it happens (thanks to the recent Malwa thread for reminding me of this possibility), 1491 AD is close enough to 896 AH that there isn't much of a problem in identifying the years (it gets a lot less convenient in the 1470s, though - so we might not be able to pass that period).
Of course, I just tried to search CCF and didn't find any 896 AH coins, but that doesn't mean that no CCF members have any.
...I once (okay, more than once) wondered if it's even theoretically possible to find a coin for every year from 1 to 2000 AD (counting non-standard years for the part the majority falls in, presumably, and including undated coins with a known minting period of a year or less).
Chances are, it's probably impossible, but I still have no idea which years would be missing specifically. (The Muslims were pretty thorough with their dating once they actually started to do it commonly, so there probably isn't anything missing this side of 720 AD or so, and a lot of places dated coins in the 1st and 2nd centuries; but the area in the middle - especially the 7th century - is going to be tricky.) In fact, the year 896 AH started in mid-November 1490 AD, so the difference is only a few weeks. Close enough. Someone should start a "how far forward can we go?" thread in the Ancients forum - posting a coin from 1 AD, then 2 AD and so on. That would require someone on CCF to have a 1 AD coin though, which is not a certainty. |
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Someone should start a "how far forward can we go?" thread in the Ancients forum - posting a coin from 1 AD, then 2 AD and so on. Go for it!   |
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still not 1491! here is one without date, but minted between 1492 and 1506. Just to get some movement here Half gross ND Alexander I Jagiellon (1461-1506) ºALEXANDER IºMON money of Alexander I MAGNIºDUCºLITUANIÆ grandduke of Lithuania  |
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I was thinking about bumping this topic and then you show up.  Very nice! |
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Bump. |
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  From Jaunpur, here is 1 tanka with the date of 896 written on it, or around 1491 in the Gregorian calendar. This coin was made in the name of Hussain Shah, whose reign ended a few years before this coin was made. Apparently, these coins were issued in that leader's name for many years after his reign. This coin is not the roundest, so my apologise for the un-cropped pictures. Anyways, I spotted this on ebay a while ago, so I got my sister to bid on it for me. It finally arrived today. This is both my coin with the oldest date written on it, and my first coin from Jaunpur, so double win for me!  |
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Oh wow! Could it be that we are finally ready to move this thread beyond 1491 and on to coins from 1490 AD?
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Excellent!  Time to edit the topic title. Of course, people can continue to post their 1491 until a 1490 comes along.  |
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Description from Forum Ancient Coins Obv: + M  MATHIE R VNGARIE , Four-part shield with Hungarian arms (Árpádian stripes, patriarchal cross, Dalmatian leopard heads, Bohemian lion), raven with ring in escutcheon. Rev: PATRO — VNGARIE, Nimbate crowned Madonna with nimbate infant Jesus to her right, K—P/thin rosette (privy mark) in fields. The type was struck in 1487-1490 (per Pohl) or 1489-1490 (per Huszár & Unger), with an average fineness of approximately .500 silver, and an average weight of .59023 g. This privy mark was struck in Kremnitz (formerly Körmöcbánya, Hungary, now Kremnica, Slovakia) by Peter Schaider, oberkammergraf (per Pohl), in 1489 (per Pohl).   |
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@arkie, that is a nice Hungarian coin. Is it from 1489 or 1490 AD? If you are unsure, I might be able to help if you list the Huszar attribution number.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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