Inflation And Current Coin Denominations

Ever smell your fingers after handling a brass or copper item? Just curious. All our money gets gunk on it - look at all circulated coins under amagnifying glass to find the ages of filth in the little recesses.



Agreed! A new system of higher-valued coinage would also take care of this!

The key here is you are tired of being forced - GOOD


Now extend this to the concept I am trying to highlight which is much more important than brass coins vs. paper bills - whether or not the government has the right to force the majority of the people against their will.

I posted:


Your response:


Exactly - and to what I am trying to bring to light here - a moot point.

However, since paper was the "way" established a long time ago, your being "forced" to use it is not the same kind of (tyrannical) coercion as the government deliberately changing to a system the majority of people have repeatedly said they do not want.

You are "forced" to use paper simply b/c you were born in America. This situation is akin to saying you are forced to spell words like color and honor with just an O instead of spelling them like Canadians do: colour and honour. These are examples of American culture. Coercion by the government in an area they have no right to do so is diametrically opposed to the very definition of American culture.


I am not saying a desire for a dollar coin is anything dumb or wrong - by any means! I am saying that ANYTHING in which people applaud the government forcing us to do something the Constitution does not give them the power to do, and the mojority of people have overwhelmingly said they do not want is dead wrong. And its doubly wrong when there is another viable solution!

To again make my point, I again put it to the question - since there is an obvious, viable alternative - what makes a piece of brass so near and dear to ones' heart that they would be willing to allow government to be given power it has no right taking? Actually, as with the recent lightbulb fiasco - this type of action is one step towards allowing tyranny.

When a new system would solve the problem - hey - INCLUDE dollar coins ALSO (and polymer bills!) - why support governmental omnipotence in matters it has no right to be in? QUIT wasting tax dollars by making a new hgigher-values coin of each denomination. Make both types of dollars so we have a more American situation of being able to make our own choices. But whatever you do... DON'T give the government any more powers than what it has already stolen.




As to being a part of the prices rising with the introduction of the Loony. granted, I did not make videos and document everything with notebooks (who would have thought?). But I also cannot discount a situation I lived in as being fantasy I imagined. I shopped in Canada frequently and was always watching prices and dollar exchange rates - just a natural thing when near the border. So at least you have a friend who can tell you his experiences - is you want more, you will need do the homework... I have got to get back to bookwork

Just b/c the future generation will not die from it does not mean it is the right thing to do. And I submit a willingness to let the government coerce where it does not need to WILL definitely hurt future generations - our current economic crisis is historic evidence of this! The general populous knew history showed a faith backed monetary system would cause problems - but the government forced it anyway!

And... yet one more time... there is still no answer offered to the main question I have been posing...
Why is it so important to get rid of what the majority desires when there is another viable solution that solves all the problems and (here comes an important part) without government coercion? What is so precious about these little bits of brass to make one desire government coercion?

Like I said - include a dollar coin in the new system also.

Thanks mritchie - I was a history teacher in a Christian school system. We deliberately made sure we went through the entire Constitution with the kids to make sure they understood our actual roots and what it meant to/for them. If this was not mostly missing from public school curriculum, then a lot of what we are facing today would never have come to pass. Our kids are not taught the true value of their freedoms and too readily brush them off.

One day they will look back and wonder how they got in the mess they are in. They see it was when they gave away their rights. freedoms, and power... but not in one large lump -- just a little bit at a time.

I'm tired of being FORCED to drive on the right side of the road! I want to drive wherever I want; I'd like to drive on the sidewalk! I hate being FORCED to use green money. I would rather use purple money! I hate being forced to fill out this year's tax forms! I'd rather use forms from 1972!

The government has the power to coin money for the purpose of facilitating commerce. It's a service provided for that purpose. A change in the design or form of the currency is not a form of oppression by any reasonable standard. The abolition of the paper dollar bill is hardly the Trail of Tears.

A one cent in 1909 buying 25 cents worth now, represents an average inflation rate of 3.01% over 105 years.
Most economists would think: 'That is acceptable'.

Nevertheless a re hash of the currency system from time to time is advantageous.

The easiest way of doing that is to re denominate the circulating note system. Low denomination coins at the bottom of the denomination scale also need to be re denominated from time to time.

JUST get on with it! What is wrong with a little pragmatism?

Drivers license - non-simialr situation -- ergo moot point.
Owning a license is a legal contract in which we acknowledge their ownership of the roads, agree to abide by their decisions, and thereby have we agree to give them absolute authority to make the laws concerning the usage of the roads.

Postage prices - ditto
Postage stamps are part of a government owned/run service in which they have the authority to conduct business as they see fit. The PO is not made up of elected officials the populace votes on. We have no say. They are not our servant by definition, they are a service offered to us by the government. And we are not forced to use them - UPS, FED EX etc.




Again, the focal point of the problem is not being addressed. It is not MY personal desire that has anything to do with this. The focus should be the will of "the people" that the government is put in office to be the servant of. The "people" have overwhelmingly said they want something else other than a dollar coin.

BTW, if the shoe were on the other foot - and this discussion was about the government being allowed to force me to use only paper - if coin had been the system set in place by the majority - my personal preferences still would go out the window! I would be posting the SAME point of discussion!




Absolutely correct. The last time I read it, the Constitution nowhere specifically stated whether metal or paper used for barter was a right. It also says nothing about which flavors of bubblegum are allowed. So no rights are violated if I choose grape vs. watermelon. But the Constitution was written to define and LIMIT governmental powers. Remember, the framers of the document were trying to make sure governmental be the servant of the people and therefore limited its powers.


And again - the unanswered question I keep posing is once again not addressed... and in light of this statement:



Since there is a viable alternative - which can even include a dollar coin so Americans have a CHOICE - why would anyone want to allow the government to be a more oppressive force?
I wish there was a way to go back and highlight this in each of the last postings I have made! No one answers


New, higher valued coinage:
Wasted government spending of tax dollars is solved.
Coin lovers get their coin.
Paper lovers get their paper.
Wrongful governmental coercion is unneeded and (more importantly) avoided.
Win - win.

So what's the deal? People complain when the government does not do things the way they want them done. It seems the above solution would only make people unhappy who (wow - trying to say this without sounding offensive - hard to do - sorry in advance - nothing personal to anyone at all) just want what they want b/c they just...want it. The drive (and emotions - key word) to discuss their point of view seems (note that word) worth more than a solution where everyone can be happy AND the government stays within its limits as a servant of the people.

Need I ask the question again ... OK:
Since there is a viable alternative - which can even include a dollar coin so Americans have a CHOICE - why would anyone want to allow the government to be a more oppressive force?

Really - using words like "oppression" and "coercion" to describe such a trivial thing makes it hard to take you seriously. Of all the arguments I've heard for keeping around the dollar bill, "help, help, I'm being oppressed" is easily the least convincing.