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Walking Back In Time From 1600 To Antiquity By Decades. Looking For 440s

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@j1m, looking forward to your post today!

In the meanwhile, here is my Follis from Justin 1 minted in Nicomedia between 518 and 527 AD (Sear 88).

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@Spence, nice follis!

Here's my pentanummium...

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Justin I (518-527), pentanummium (5 nummi), Antioch mint.

Obverse: DN IVSTINVS PF AV, portrait of Justin I right.
Reverse: Tyche? seated, river god Orontes? swimming below, reverse epsilon upper left, all in a temple? (note: I'm not very confident of the reverse description).

The photos suck and don't do the coin justice. I should probably try to take better ones eventually.
Even so, the essentially complete obverse legend should be visible here
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Ok yep great coin! We are now ready for coins minted between 500 and 509 AD.
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This is the closest I can come to between 500-507. I hope this counts.

Anastasius I (491-518), Semissis, Constantinople, c. 507-518,
(17.90 mm. 2.00g,)
Obv: Diademed, draped and cuirassed bust right
Anastasius PP AVG
Rev: Victory seated right, inscribing shield set on knee; star to left, staurogram to lower right;
Victoria AVGG. CONOB in Exergue
CONOB. MIBE 10; DOC 9; S. 7. Very fine.
London Coin Galleries, Auction 4 - Part 1Lot 1144 June 1, 2017




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@orfew, what a great coin to post! The date is between 507 and 518 AD. In the original rules for this thread, for coins without an exact date, they would "count" if the first year of the range fit the correct decade and if the minting period was 10 years or less. This semissis seems to meet the first requirement, but not the second one. My recommendation is that we keep this decade open and see if we can find any other coins that meet @medieval's specific rules for progression.
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My recommendation is that we keep this decade open and see if we can find any other coins that meet @medieval's specific rules for progression.
Agreed.
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Here is another coin that might just be from the correct decade, but unfortunately was minted for too long (508-528 AD) to move us back in this thread. It is a 1/4 Siliqua from the Gepids. I have a full write-up of this coin in this thread:

http://goccf.com/t/284244#2415344



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Bump! Looking for a coin minted between 500 and 509 AD.
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Bump--we are still looking for a coin minted between 500 and 509 AD.
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It's been nearly a month since I last bumped this thread. Anyone like to post a coin minted between 500 and 509 AD so that we can keep moving?
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Thanks @jbuck--it is nice to have some company. We have been waiting only a couple months for this decade, but it feels like longer since we had been making fairly steady progress for a while there.

I'm happy to show some patience and then at some point entertain the possibility of starting over with a Rev. 2. It'll make me a little sad though to give up on one of @medieval's greatest and longest-lasting contributions to CCF.
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I'm happy to show some patience and then at some point entertain the possibility of starting over with a Rev. 2. It'll make me a little sad though to give up on one of @medieval's greatest and longest-lasting contributions to CCF.
I'm not sure if it really would be giving up, any more than the 2nd (and 3rd, and 4th) editions of How Far Back Can We Go were.
Still pretty close though, and thus still sad... what did happen to the guy? I've been asking that about a dozen times by now, and never got anything more than an extremely vague answer.

Unfortunately, my current research suggests that it will not be even theoretically possible to have a coin from each of the last 2000 years... there's a gap in the early 490s when, apparently, no dated coins were made anywhere at all (that is, the first reign of Kavadh I had no dated coins, and nobody else was making dated coins at the time).
So the How Far Forward Can Be Go project is effectively shut down (mind you, it was never clear where it was supposed to start in the first place).

For the record, having no Sassanian coins (yet, but the ones I've seen offered were quite expensive), I am currently unable to progress this thread further.
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there's a gap in the early 490s


Yes could be. While the 5th Century AD hasn't really been a focus of mine, I do only have one coin from this entire period (from Theodosius II).

Stephen Album has a new auction right now, so maybe I'll see what sorts of options there are.
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