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Walking Back In Time From 1600 To Antiquity By Decades. Looking For 440s

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 Posted 02/04/2015  02:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fuzzy317 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I will follow this thread, and I might get something to post later.
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Since this thread will run for a few months (at hopefully not stop dead in it's tracks), plenty chance to buy a Roman coin to post.

Here something different which started to be minted around those times:


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It is a jeton, the so called "Venus Penny". This particular type was minted in the 'Low Countries' (aka Netherlands) between the 1490s and into the 1550s. Various different legends were used, all of them ficticious. Reference to this particular one is Mitchiner#829-830.
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 Posted 02/04/2015  04:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add davidrj to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1492-1506 Lithuania half grosz

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Here a matching 1/2 Groschen issued by John I Albrecht (1492-1501) for Poland:


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Undated Hungarian Denar,K-S/E mint mark,King Wladislaus II.
This type of coin was minted between 1490-99,but this mint mark was jointly struck by Stephanus Ryzmegl and Erasmus Rezl in 1497. Huszar 803,Pohl 238-4,Unger 638e,Rathy II276,Kaplan Sub-type A2.

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Interesting, which of those references nails it down to 1497? Is there an online reference? Would be nice if I could narrow the time-frame for some of my remaining Hungarian coins, for three of them it might be handy. Huszar (my main reference) has yours down to 1490-1502, but he does not specify the mintmasters.
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I am wondering if this link will work. http://www.forumancientcoins.com/ga...p?album=2233

I was able to identify some of my coins this way because I don't have Pohl or Unger.
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Thanks, yes it works - I do have Rethy and Huszar, of the two Huszar is the more up-to-date one but there has been other research as well, so thanks for the link.
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Also,there is a message board for ancient and medieval coinage. Two people that know are really good with medieval Hungarian coinage call themselves quadrans and Stkp.
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Nice coins 'DKA-Numis', always good to see a diversity to be posted.


Thanks! Happy to contribute!



In fourteen-hundred and ninety-two, Columbus sailed the ocean blue...

...and this coin was minted...

1492 Briquet
Brabant - Burgundian Netherlands
Philip "The Fair"


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Before we end this decade let me throw in another jeton:

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This was called the "Ship Penny" and like the one posted above was minted from the 1490s to the 1550s, but this is from Nuremberg which produced copious amounts of jetons/rechenpfennige. Reference for this one is Mitchiner#1156+
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Time to go on to 1481-1490:


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Billon Tankah minted in AH886 (ie 11/03/1481-27/02/1482) by Hussain Shah ibn Mahmud of the Sultans of Juanpur - Mitchiner#2894

The obverse inscription includes "Hussain Shah ibn Mahmud Shah ibn Ibrahim Shah" and the reverse legend ends "(8)86".
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I wanted a coin from Constantinople during its Islamic era and as close as possible date-wise to its conquest by the Ottomans. As a collector of Roman coins I also thought it'd be appropriate to get at least one coin from the guys that finally defeated the Roman Empire.

Bayezid II, Ottoman Empire
AR Akce
Obv: Sultan's name in Arabic surrounded by border of dots
Rev: "Glorious victory / Constantinople" in Arabic, legend surrounded by border of dots
Mint: Constantinople (struck 1481/ AH 886)
Ref: Pere 86

(rev is the left and obv is right)
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Nice one, hope to see more of your coins in the following days etc. I'll have an Akche to contribute at the beginning of the 15th century.
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My next coin isn't for another two centuries so it will be a while
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