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10 Centimes 1832 Belgium: Error, Proof Or Copy?

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 Posted 01/24/2015  06:22 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jagoedo to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Dear fellow collectors,

I recently purchased this example of 10 centimes 1832
Everything seems fine. However, the edge is smooth and not reeded.
So I was wondering:
Is this a proof coin? I have browsed through auctions but I only found proofs in silver.
Is this an error where they just forgot the edge?
Or is this a copy? In this is the case this must be the best copy I saw from this coin but nevertheless, everything is possible.



10-Centimes-1832-Belgium:-Error,-Proof-Or-Copy?

10-Centimes-1832-Belgium:-Error,-Proof-Or-Copy?

10-Centimes-1832-Belgium:-Error,-Proof-Or-Copy?
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01/24/2015 3:37 pm
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 Posted 01/24/2015  3:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tenbobbit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cant help with authentication unfortunately Jagoedo, whilst studying the pictures I am sure I can see a die clash.
Maybe just my eyes but there is definitely something there especially the top picture.
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 Posted 01/24/2015  3:16 pm  Show Profile   Check thedollarman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add thedollarman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
is there a chance that this country struck any other coins of this size that had a plain edge? ifso it could be a collar mule.
Feel free to call me Will.
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 Posted 01/24/2015  4:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinworldtv to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi there,

is this coin struck with medallic or coin alignment?


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Belgium
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 Posted 01/24/2015  5:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jagoedo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coin alignment. But I think I found the variety with the help of a fellow collector of Belgians coins
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 Posted 01/24/2015  5:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LlacerSBD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,
The weight must be 20 gr, very exactly.
If not 20 gr, you have a chinoise fake.
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01/24/2015 5:49 pm
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Looks authentic to me on the pictures.
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Belgium
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 Posted 01/25/2015  1:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jagoedo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For me it is just important to know if this coin is a copy or not. If I compare it with the chinese counterfeits, it doesn't even come close. The design is much sharper en nicer as it is with the original examples.
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Belgium
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 Posted 02/11/2015  04:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jagoedo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Update:
Contacted the seller to give me some more information on where he got the coin from. He told me he bought it at an antique fair in the USA. Possibility is that this could be a restrike which was done a few year later.
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Quote:
Hi,
The weight must be 20 gr, very exactly.
If not 20 gr, you have a chinoise fake.


These coins left the mint with a deviation of 2% on the weight so it can be somewhere between 19,6 g and 20,4 g. Mine is 19,6X which is within the range
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 Posted 02/12/2018  2:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jagoedo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just to give you an update. This is a proof :D
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