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 Posted 03/30/2015  12:25 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add AT214 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I was hoping some of you experts can shed some light on some of the 60's pennies obverse looking doubled. I am referring to the portrait of Lincoln from his eye to his bow tie. I notice a few of them look like they are doubled and a few look MD, but you can notice the difference between them. I was wondering if this is normal, just the way the design for that year was and is common. Yes pics are helpful, I know, but before I start a photo shoot that will probably take me hours, mainly due to my daughter deciding that my phone needed to take a shower and its beyond hope. Maybe some of the experts can help me with a general idea if this is common for this year, and if there are any doubles of the portrait for those years. Thanks
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 Posted 03/30/2015  12:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eagle_eye_18 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes there are some doubled dies in the 60's they are:

1960-D DDO
1962 DDO
1963 DDO
1964 DDO
1969-S DDO

However, the doubling on the coins I have listed do not apply to Lincoln's portrait.

What you are seeing is most likely MD.

When you get a chance please attach photos to confirm.
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 Posted 03/30/2015  1:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There was a re-tooling that was done on some dies to enhance the neck:
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Was this what you finding?

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 Posted 03/30/2015  1:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AT214 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@coop, oh I was so hoping you would provide a few pics for me like this!! Thank you Thank you! you are the Man! ok the 3rd pic I see a lot on the 60's coins, but what is hand tooling? Also what I see is splitting of the lips up to the eye. the same level and not flat or shelf like, but I also do see on many of them, what looks like md and I know that's what those are, and I see what looks like the 3rd pic at neck lines. does this go all the way around the front of the portrait? could I see a combination of doubling and hand tooling?
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 Posted 03/30/2015  2:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it looks like the coin on the right of Abe, then it is Machine Doubling. Note how it reduces the size of the bust from die movement during the strike.
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The one of the left is a doubled die. Note how the devices are round on that dime?

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 Posted 03/30/2015  3:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rackster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AT - I saw the same phenomenon a while back but categorized it as normal for the period. My guess would be that the designed was enhanced using a hand tool (engraver maybe) by a toolman. As I recall the details look scalloped rather than flat MD and undercut the neck/profile. Coop might be able to comment better on the manual process as I'm offering a possible contributing method.
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 Posted 03/30/2015  6:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Colin's Coins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Now I want to go check my Ball mason jars full of 60's pennies
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why do some of the 60's pennies look almost brand new and bright and shiny but others of the same years are brown and the common colors? I found about 3 in 4 boxes of pennies and they have this almost like brand new look to them without hardly any scratches and one even looks a little capped(but no words missing, just like a mini bowl) but absolutely beautiful and I don't know why or how they manage to still look new
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 Posted 03/30/2015  11:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Kind of like this?
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wow!! I wish, that is cool! no mine isn't no where like that, but it would hold more water then normal coins. it is very noticeable as the words also look like they either smear towards the rim or away can't really tell. I am going to be taking a pic of that one also, just still working on them. But it is a 1960 penny and it looks almost new also, very little wear to it and a nice bright color. are these really just not circulated or do they get some kind of cleaning after circulating awhile? Mine might not even be classified as "capped" but it sure don't look like a normal coin, and no sign of damage to say it was smashed or hit with anything
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 Posted 03/31/2015  11:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Like this?
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 Posted 03/31/2015  8:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AT214 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ok so maybe I'm wrong and it not capped?. it sure don't look like that. just a slight bowl and on the reverse you can see the shadow outline of the obverse when you move it.
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