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Commems Collection Classic: Commemorative Price Comparison - 1940 V 2015

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I was looking through an issue of the ANA's The Numismatist from May 1940 and came across an ad from Hollinbeck Stamp & Coin Stores. The ad featured a nice selection of uncirculated US commemoratives.

I thought it would be interesting to compare prices from 75 years ago with today's prices on a few issues (assuming an MS-60 grade for 2015 prices):

Issue Name          1940 Price      Adjusted(1)   2015 Price(2)   Change(3) 
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1892 Columbian           $0.95          $15.85         ~$25.00         58%
1915 Pan-Pac            $11.85         $197.40        ~$465.00        136%
1921 Missouri 2x4       $19.50         $324.80         ~640.00         97%
1927 Vermont             $1.95          $32.50        ~$250.00        669%
1935 Hudson              $5.75          $95.80        ~$750.00        683%
1936 York                $1.25          $20.80        ~$190.00        813%
1937 Texas P-D-S Set     $4.35          $72.45        ~$400.00        452%

(1) 1940 Price in 2015 Dollars (i.e., Adjusted for Inflation)
(2) Pricing is typical
(3) Percent 2015 Price Is Above 1940 Adjusted Price


Clearly, all of the coins show an appreciation in price beyond what is a result of just inflation.

As would be expected, the very common Columbian Exposition coins have appreciated the least. The price of one of the keys to the Type Set, the 1935 Hudson, on the other hand showed a nice jump of ~669%.

I was a bit surprised by the relatively small "real" increase for the 1915 Pan Pac and 1921 Missouri 2x4 half dollars; I would have expected both of these issues to have performed better considering the current market for them. Of course, if I had used 2015 prices for higher grade coins (e.g., MS-63 or MS-65), the differences would have been much larger and more in line with my expectations.

The relatively common 1936 York was another surprise. Its 813% increase was unexpected considering its current widespread availability today in all uncirculated grades.

Bottom line, a collection of US commemoratives assembled in 1940 would offer its owner a "real" increase in value beyond inflation if sold today, but would not have performed as well as some other series. For example, the same ad had a 1921 Peace dollar listed at $1.35. Today, that would translate to $22.50. With a current market price of about $300, the coin's selling price is 1,233% above it inflation adjusted price. If only I was around to have purchased a roll back in 1940!


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 Posted 04/29/2015  02:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scropper to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
INTERESTING study! Thank you for sharing! I really dig my teeth into stuff like this.

You know what would be another fascinating study (and I know because I started a bit of my own) is some key date copper. There again you could get chain cents and Fugios and 1856 Flying Eagles for a few dollars. For me, this is one of the main reasons that they're my favorite "investment grade" coins. The 1885 CC Morgan, too.

The other challenging part that I'm sure you had fun with in doing this is correlating real grades. In 1940, grading was a bit looser and a lot of people's Proof was really MS. But anyway, that's all part of the fun.

Thanks again!
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Great information!

I took some liberties with the presentation. Let me know if you like it and I can put in your original post.

Issue Name          1940 Price      Adjusted(1)   2015 Price(2)   Change(3)  
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1892 Columbian           $0.95          $15.85         ~$25.00         58%
1915 Pan-Pac            $11.85         $197.40        ~$465.00        136%
1921 Missouri 2x4       $19.50         $324.80         ~640.00         97%
1927 Vermont             $1.95          $32.50        ~$250.00        669%
1935 Hudson              $5.75          $95.80        ~$750.00        683%
1936 York                $1.25          $20.80        ~$190.00        813%
1937 Texas P-D-S Set     $4.35          $72.45        ~$400.00        452%

(1) 1940 Price in 2015 Dollars (i.e., Adjusted for Inflation)
(2) Pricing is typical
(3) Percent 2015 Price Is Above 1940 Adjusted Price
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Wow that is cool! Me being a numbers guy (accountant), now I want to do that with some of the coins in my collection! One question, though, since I am still relatively new in my field, how does one adjust for inflation? Haven't dealt with that much. Thanks for the info!
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@jbuck: Many thanks! Feel free to replace my original "table." What you've presented is what I wanted, but wasn't aware of how to do it. Is there a reference about table formatting somewhere here on CCF?


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One question, though, since I am still relatively new in my field, how does one adjust for inflation?
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@jbuck: Many thanks! Feel free to replace my original "table." What you've presented is what I wanted, but wasn't aware of how to do it. Is there a reference about table formatting somewhere here on CCF?
If you edit your post, you can see how it was done. Short answer, [code][/code] tags around the data format it as monospace text.
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Thanks jbuck. To be completely honest I didn't even think of Google... facepalm.
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In 2015 you should always remember your supreme overlord Google.
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Very interesting analysis. Thanks for that, commems! It seems that there are a couple in there that could be good toe-in-the water starters for classic commem beginers!
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Concur indeed with the valued and interesting contribution commems.

I've always enjoyed your historical comparison ideas ... in this case the relative appreciation of a few examples from the series.

Suppose that if I live to the wise age of 136 - in that case my 2005-2015 commemorative acquisitions might actually have some value.

Thank You for another valued contribution.

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Good info.

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Very interesting.
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Average rate of inflation over the 75 years 3.8%
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Average investment rate (includes inflation) for 1892 Colombian Half over 75 years: 4.45%,
Average investment rate (includes inflation) for 1936 York commemorative Half over 75 years: 6.92%.


My parent's house 1950: 650 Australian Pounds = AU$1300,
My parent's house 2015: AU$810,000.
Average investment rate (includes inflation) - 11.0% over 65 years.

Don't use coins as your first investment option; collect them for fun.
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Wow now I know what I should have bought ! Thanks
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Mr. Kairu,

I am an accountant as well! Ha, I'd bet there are quite a few of us in the ranks here!
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