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Hi everyone I have been posting up a lot of threads lately and have felt rather guilty as such I have decided to consolidate all my questions into the one thread so it is easier for everyone  Hence the title Oh My Florins Incessant Questions Thread  Firstly has anyone had any prior experience with Certified Gold Cobs? I have spoken to the owner and he is exceptionally nice and rather experienced. Here is the website http://www.certifiedgoldcobs.com/ancients.htmlHe is also on ebay as moneytreeme Secondly could people please provide an opinion on the Macedonian staters he has advertised as well as prices? The first one has caught my eye for some reason (has also been in my thread which Stater would you prefer?) and but others have said there are better ones out there. Thirdly in terms of ancients how delicate is the toning? Generally as I know on modern coins toning can be quite fickle at times. (for simplicity's sake in terms of the first Julius Ceasar coin advertised further down the page.) Fourthly in terms of Vcoins I have had a look there and it appears to be awfully overpriced at times. I have seen staters that haven't attracted a bid at 3200 Euros being advertised for 6500 Euros. Could someone tell me how effective they have actually found Vcoins? Lastly I found this coin previously sold through CNG which looks rather similar (same Le Rider Number 433) however the CNG images aren't great from that long ago. The main thing I see is the wear on the side of the horse however could someone tell me if the two are one and the same?   Sorry everyone for having to deal with my Incessant Question Thread OMF P.s. if you are looking for a beautiful Julius Ceasar coin have a look at the first one he has advertised it has wonderful eye appeal. P.s.s Sorry everyone you probably hate all the threads I keep posting Edited by oh my florin
05/26/2015 10:22 pm
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I can only dream about owning any ancient gold coin, but if I could coin 1 would be on the list. A beautiful coin in all respects, strike, color, and condition. His selling price is not over the top the coin is well worth IMO the $12 1/2K. Ancient coins are meant to be handled so I wouldn't worry about hurting the toning, though I still wouldn't want to put it in a pocket or polish it. Some sellers on Vcoins are very expensive but not all, you have to search through them to find the deals. Most also will entertain reasonable offers.
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Pillar of the Community
 Australia
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Echizento Thank you for pointing that out I have amended my initial post to include the website details. Sorry I am two steps ahead of myself lately.
Any comments on the similarities between the two coins? As the first one sold for $3000 at CNG in 2005 and the second is $12500 today so I want to make sure I am not buying the same coin.
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05/27/2015 01:13 am
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Belgium
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same coin number , but not 2 same dies. obv:difference in the form of the lips,nose ,forhead and eyes : so different dies. rev: maybe the same die , very difficult to say ,for me there is a difference in the mark under the horses , maybe in the PH of Philippou , but it can be due to the light.For the price , compare on http://www.acsearch.info .I think this stater is to expensive .albert |
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Australia
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Thanks Antwerpen both sellers specified the exact same dies so a little confusing. Also what makes you say it is overpriced? I have had a look through acsearch and a few others and none compare in terms of quality.
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[quote]As the first one sold for $3000 at CNG in 2005 and the second is $12500 today so I want to make sure I am not buying the same coin.[quote]
I doubt the seller paid anywhere close to $12500 for it and if you have patience you could probably wait and get a similar quality coin for about half the price.
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05/27/2015 8:28 pm
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Australia
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Thank you arnoldoe for that. Comments on price were what I was looking for and as such I will wait till another one comes up.
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United States
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When you get into the world of Ancient Greek gold coins you enter the world of "if you need to ask you can't afford it" collecting. Prices tend to get rounded off to the next nearest thousand and finding similar coins priced worlds apart is normal.
I recently posted several 'folles' of the Roman Tetrarchs from around AD300. They are early London issue and quite popular with collectors of such things. I paid on average around $40 which makes me happy as most dealers ask in the range of $100 - 120 which I think to be rather steep ! But whether we talk of $40 and $120 or $5,000 and $15,000 the percentages are the same !
Some people just have fatter wallets !
If you worry too much about return on investment you won't have the time to truly enjoy your collection.
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I live on what passes for an 'old' street in my city. To get to my 60yr old 7 room house I must pass by 22 room Victorian era mansions. The garages (carriage houses) behind these homes are bigger than my house ! I am quite happy where I am really and get the pleasure of viewing all that stained glass and finely manicured real estate every day ! Ironically most of those palaces have a Toyota Camry parked in the driveway. Just because they have money doesn't mean they are foolish with it ! If you attend a few international coin shows you are likely to find a dealer who needs to pay the bills. Make some offers and you just may get surprised ........ eventually.
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United States
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They have a Toyota because they have to heat that house in winter and cool it in the summer. This is no small expense.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I could never afford the property taxes never mind the heat !
As it is I burn coal in the winter to keep nice and toasty. On a cold winters day when the air is still and the anthracite wet, the nostalgic scent of 'warm farts' wafts down the street.
Imagine back in the day when those mansions had boilers and soft (high sulphur) coal was heat of choice !
I save enough to buy more coins !
Bombs away !
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Australia
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Haha consider yourselves lucky guys I hear the tax rates in the Nordic Countries are ridiculously high but they provide most things, unsure if they provide coins and coffee tho  I am currently talking to the dealer what I think has happened is he has compared the coin to one graded the exact same that sold for 20,000 minus the fine style designation however that one is a Colophon type and is of course the one attributed as being of Alexander the Great. By the way send me a link to your ebay FVRIVS RVFVS I would love to see some of the Roman coins from London (Londinium I think I heard it referred to as once or twice?) Also I am looking to purchase a number of books on ancient coins and came across the following DVD set which includes the entire BMC set and heaps of other interesting books in PDF format http://www.ebay.com/itm/325-Vintage...em2edfa1cb70Can anyone comment on how useful the books are from experience etc? |
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Belgium
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most of these books are free on internet , like BMC and I think RIC also.
I bought a similar DVD 5/6 years ago for 2 pounds .Sometimes there is also a problem to have clear pictures , but it very interesting and easy to find an old book.So if you like it , for 10 pounds delivered it is not to expensive ,but I don t think there is an exanple of the greek alphabet inside , looking his Greek transcriptions : he writes : apsispt-ancient cthins-coins grssk-greek roomdroman .albert
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United Kingdom
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FR does not have any ebay listings at this time. You can keep an eye on what he has by clicking on the ebay icon in his answer. |
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Australia
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Thanks antwerpen could you give me a link to those books (primarily the Macedonia one) I tried to find them on google but was unable to find them.
Amended never mind found them
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05/29/2015 12:59 am
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Pillar of the Community
Belgium
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google catalogue of the Greek coins in teh British Museum and choise the free sites or go to http://www.forumancientcoins.com , articles and resources and go to the Brit Mus.or chech here by coincommunity in the free books.albert |
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