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1971-D Half Dollar: Doubled Eye, Lamination Errors?

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Good afternoon, fellow CCF members!

I'm excited to share a couple of potential face-value finds with you, strongly suspecting that my suspicions aren't far off from the truth. I believe that the first coin has some some sort of doubling blatantly present on Kennedy's exposed eye. No doubling (other than MD on the reverse) exists on this coin.

For my second coin, I observe what to my judgement appears to be a "lamination peel", wherein a significant chunk of the coin appears to have been torn or ripped off!

Each coin is in uncirculated condition, with MS 65-67 tier reverses (gem-like luster, almost zero contact marks visible). I'd be really appreciative in identification of possible DDO listings, and a general appraisal in value. Thanks in advance for checking out my coins, and I'll look forward to your reply.
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COIN #1:

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COIN #2:

1971-D-Half-Dollar:-Doubled-Eye,-Lamination-Errors?


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Pis of the obverse , reverse and a closeup of the area in question are usually needed for the best answers to questions like this. Just can not make out the details you refer to.
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i believe so on the doupled eye
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Each coin is in uncirculated condition, with MS 65-67 tier reverses (gem-like luster, almost zero contact marks visible).

Can you post the reverse.
Coin #1 looks like a hit.
Coin #2 looks like scratch marks
These two with the pictures presented are not MS coins IMHO
Keep asking Shnug.We all need to learn.
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Click on the thumbnails to view larger photos.
I don't know a whole lot about Kennedy halves, but it looks like something going on with that eye.
I don't think it took a hit, both sides are rounded.
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MIght be something on that eye in the first pic. I looked only at some pics of 71-D halves but could not tell if this is typical, a die issue, or an actual error.

But if you look at the T in LIBERTY you will see a DDO split serif on the bottom right, and at the bottom tips of the T. You also might check the bottom right of the I in the word IN. You may have an (not uncommon though) FS-50-1971-D-102. The pic is a bit hard to make these out - but I think they are there. I have looked at a LOT of 71-D halves to look for the 101 variety, and yours looks like a 102. Better pics would tell.

I also think the 2nd half has the DDO pon the T's tips. If you go to the Coneca website you will see there are many variations of this minor DDO.

As to the suspected lamination peel - I don't know.
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Better pics than I thought. Second coin may be a Greaser with plenty of particles in it.
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bpoc1 said:

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Can you post the reverse.
Coin #1 looks like a hit.
Coin #2 looks like scratch marks
These two with the pictures presented are not MS coins IMHO
Keep asking Shnug.We all need to learn.


YIKES! You're totally right! I had no idea from looking at these coins with the naked eye, but taking pictures under proper lighting conditions with my cellphone reveals that these are NOT MS-65+ tier coins. This comes as a shock, but you pointing this out has helped me step back and realize my grading skills could use some "touching up". Thanks for your input!

As requested: more pictures, less clicks!

Eye Closeup:
1971-D-Half-Dollar:-Doubled-Eye,-Lamination-Errors?

COIN #1 REVERSE OF SUSPECT DDO:
(Yes, that's another confusing little lamination peel you see on the word "Half".)
1971-D-Half-Dollar:-Doubled-Eye,-Lamination-Errors?

COIN #2 REVERSE, SUSPECT LAMINATION ERROR:
1971-D-Half-Dollar:-Doubled-Eye,-Lamination-Errors?
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If the planchet were in some way delaminating that close to the rim for that distance than the rim itself would be included. It's struck through something.
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