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 Posted 06/20/2015  5:45 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Petrols to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
forgive me guys Ive been stuck hard by cleaned coins over the years and don't want it happening any more

this is a 1900 .25 I'm interested in
whatca think it will grade
Thanks Mates

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 Posted 06/20/2015  5:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Paulsz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I want to say AU58-MS60.

As for cleaning, I think this coin is not cleaned.

But i'd wait for some better thoughts as I'm no good with cleaned coins either
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 Posted 06/20/2015  6:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The seller describes it as "MS details". How many sellers undergrade their coins.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 06/21/2015  05:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Too much 'light' on the coin to tell if it's been cleaned.
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 Posted 06/21/2015  05:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wireman09 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely has been recently dipped. Is that considered "cleaned". Some say yes, some say no. I personally consider a 115 yr old coin that has been dipped as a cleaned coin.
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Most likely au55 to au58.

Dipped, not cleaned and perfectly acceptable.
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With a starting bid of over $400.00 CDN, I would want
the coin certified or be able to see it in hand.
Pictures not good enough to determine grade IMO.
Maybe that's why there are no bids yet.
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 Posted 06/21/2015  10:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petrols to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Guys, Information is greatly appreciated
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Re your concerns about "cleaning" - it's really important to distinguish what the "definition" of this is.

It is a subject of some confusion and debate among coin collectors - all silver coins will tarnish over time when exposed to the air. I have seen coins with perfect surfaces that were totally black from tarnishing - it is possible to remove the tarnish to reveal the surfaces underneath without doing damage to coin - (and I would suggest that most older coins have been dipped in a tarnish removal solution at some point in their existence).

Is this "cleaning"?

I guess it could be called that - but in a positive way and should not adversely affect the value of coin, unless it is done improperly and has left the surface looking unappealing - or if you would be one of the few collectors that prefer a coin in a dark toned look rather than to see shiny lustrous appearance.

On the flip side, the negative aspect of "cleaning" (which does significantly affect the value of coin) would be "polishing" the surface of coin by rubbing with a cloth or using a powered wheel (whizzing) - this actually changes the surface of the coin by wearing it down with friction to cause it to be more shiny but in fact damages the surface and wears down the details.

I would certainly guess that at sometime in the last 50 years someone has "dipped" the 1900 twenty five cent silver piece you are interested in - it's my opinion this has only enhanced the visual aspect of coin without doing any damage and has exposed very attractive lustre. And in fact makes it easier to accurately grade than if the surface was covered with dark tarnish.


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