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Do You Think These 2015 ASE's Are Counterfeit?

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 Posted 07/10/2015  3:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jack jeckel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fake.

The head is wrong, the date font is wrong, the dress is missing pleats, and many more things.
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 Posted 07/10/2015  4:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hcmusicguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And the details are just all wrong.
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 Posted 07/10/2015  4:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Foxwoods Man to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can you post a link to the original auction?

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 Posted 07/10/2015  4:58 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Was the description for proof ASEs? Are the auction pictures of 2015-W proofs?
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 Posted 07/10/2015  5:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
BH1964 has good questions. If they showed pictures of the real deal, then sent you these, they are sellers we all need to watch out for so we can hammer them off ebay if they continue to pull that stunt.

As mentioned above, a link to the original would be helpful.

The eagle should be painted green, since it is the EAGLE-HULK who come to do you damage!
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 Posted 07/10/2015  5:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Foxwoods Man to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The ?proof and link questions have been asked twice....
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 Posted 07/10/2015  5:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Foxwoods Man to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Nope, still not convinced they are fake...bottom two are not
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 Posted 07/10/2015  5:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Top one is fake fox, just compare the top bars of the E alone
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 Posted 07/10/2015  5:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Top picture you presented is the one in question, the bottom two are the real deal, so:

Top picture: Liberty does not show two fingers pointing with little finger bent. Looks more like she's giving the V sign. The upright of E leans left, while the real deal is nearly vertical. Sandal on the right shows thongs all wrong and is blunt at the point, not like on the real deal. Foot above date shows toes exposed on the real deal, top picture shows no toes and the whole foot is squished flat. In the motto "IN GOD WE TRUST" the top one has many of the letters touching one another, especially the top of W to E and the entire word TRUST. Not so on the real deal, where those letter are separated. The date uses a completely different font on the top example. Especially easy to see on the 2 and the 5. Not even close to the same. Alignment of the head attaching to the neck is wrong, Liberty looks DOWN on the top fake, and forward on the real deal. Also, where the head attaches, the fake's neck makes it look like Liberty's head is stuck on with a stick. ALL the lines in the skirt are wrong on the top example. They are not even CLOSE to the same arrangement, depth, or number as a real deal. Bosom of the real deal shows most of chest facing viewer with the left (side) breast only slightly smaller than the right. The top fake darn near shows a (edited) on the left (side)bosom and the drapery beneath isn't even close to the right shape and droops left. On and on and on.
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 Posted 07/10/2015  6:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add reupman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
have you weighed them? called the seller etc? let us know how this process goes
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 Posted 07/10/2015  6:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Did the coins come in the original package with the COA.

I would find it very odd for a 2015 to not be in the
OGP and have a COA.
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 Posted 07/10/2015  6:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scropper to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting. Are they even silver, that's what I want to know. There are a lot of companies making silver rounds. If they're at least silver, that's a good start. ebay. Sheesh.
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 Posted 07/10/2015  6:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add llewellin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep serif on the E and Y in liberty shouldn't be there.
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 Posted 07/10/2015  6:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Papadoc75 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm curious about it being silver as well, Scropper. At least if it's full silver it's a less painful loss. I've purchased a couple of ASEs off of ebay in the past with no issues, but I am skeptical of taking my chances again. There are good fakes out there. Maybe if it was photographed on a scale...






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 Posted 07/10/2015  7:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What you REALLY need to be careful of with the newer coins that are coming from China, especially those that actually use the correct silver and weight, is seeing one picture and receiving something else.

If this seller has shown the fake photo and sent the fake token (I refuse to call it a coin), they at least gave you a shot at catching it from the pictures they post.

BUT the ones you really have to check are the ones that show you a picture of the real thing, then send the token. There are a lot of collectors that are always more excited about getting a coin than they are about receiving the coin. If you don't check what you receive as soon as you receive it, there is that small margin of possibility that what you got isn't what you bought.
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