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This '52 Franklin Proof Is At The Very Least Understruck

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Opinions? It looks similar to a Bugs Bunny (see the weak eagle). It also seems to have been over polished on the obverse. No protruding teeth however.

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I'm convinced! Under magnification you can still see what look like teeth! Wow!
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It looks pretty rough for a Proof coin. You shouldn't handle Proof coins with your bare hands. Oil, dirt, and scratches can ruin a nice Proof coin.
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I pulled it from the unopened box myself! :)
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pic makes it look very scratched up.
i also cannot see teeth.

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Very nice coin. I don't see the BB on the Obverse.
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Most of these are on the business strike coins. But it could also happen on proof coins.
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Here is Bill Fivaz's image of the 1952 that sold at auction a few days ago. I do not see clash marks on the subject coin. Looks normal to me.

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What you have now is an impaired proof ,after you have touched it with your fingers and exposed it to the out of package environment . I cannot see teeth.
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Coop, thanks for all of the examples. If I had a better camera I would get it posted but the teeth are there, they look like the impressions of the 1955 example above and they extend down onto the bottom lip.
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Are all those scratches really on the coin?
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Are all those scratches really on the coin?

The coin does not seem like it's in any kind of holder.
Those scratches must be on that coin.
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Yes, all those scratches are on the coin. That's part of what lead me to believe it's a mint error. The descriptions of Bugs Bunny versions include the bell impression just in front of the nose of Franklin. Apparently it was the custom of the mint at the time to over polish the coin causing a "disconnected nose" effect. The bridge on mine is virtually non existent.
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T-BOP, yes it's not in a holder. Specifically for clarity of the pictures only. It is now safe in a non-pvc flip. Relax.
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The bridge of nose on the one Bill Fivaz shot is full so there is at least one difference there. What would make you think that scratches on the coin are an indicator of an error or variety? You need better images of the clash marks.
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According to the article I read, the mint over polished to remove the bell impression the polishing method could be the source of the micro scratches.
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There are no polishing scratches on the one Fivaz shot and what I see on your coin is on the coin's surface after it was minted. Yours is an impaired proof that "might" grade Proof-64 at best but I see as a Proof-63.
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