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Valued Member
United States
52 Posts |
Aren't the premiums a good thing and a good sign? There's more paper silver sold than physical silver exists. That would suggest the silver supply silver price is based upon is basically artificial, manipulated, and just plain made up.
Premiums on physical suggest the value of physical versus paper may be more commonly accepted.
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Valued Member
United States
194 Posts |
Im happy that the premiums are so high. It is protecting the value of the silver I already have. It makes the upside better because look at it this way - if silver goes up, so does the value of your holdings, if silver goes down, premiums will adjust to protect its value - to a certain extent of course.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
2019 Posts |
As no one really knows for sure if silver will keep dropping or make a turn around and increase, I would keep buying "some", I mean most are buying because they want to stack, not because they want to flip it every time it increases in spot by a few cents, ya some do but most don't.
If silver goes up then you have a stack, great. if you keep waiting for it to hit the "bottom" you might never buy any lol, maybe GICs are better suited for those types and forget about stacking silver.
If it drops then buy more, in this day and age any investment on the open market is risky. But I would take the "physical" over any paper junk all day long.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
2019 Posts |
Speaking of charts... take a look at the probable population growth and then try and tell your self the demand for silver isn't going to grow...you cant. Not just more stacker's but more importantly more consumers of items that use silver in their production. Silver really does has a "bright" future, keep on Stacking!  Quote: A recent UN report predicted that the world's population will pass 10.1 billion by the end of the century, with much of that population growth occurring in so-called "high-fertility" countries, where each woman is having, on average, 1.5 daughters. This chart shows historical population growth since 1950 and the projected growth through 2100. (Population Action International) http://e360.yale.edu/slideshow/the_...illion/13/1/
Edited by Northerncoins 09/06/2015 1:12 pm
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
586 Posts |
 Since when silver price was connected with population growth? Back in 70s, silver hit about $50 per oz already; and by 2011 it revisited $50 area again. Needless to say, that $50 in 70s was much more valuable than the one in 2011 due to inflation.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
2019 Posts |
Quote: Since when silver price was connected with population growth? Back in 70s, silver hit about $50 per oz already; and by 2011 it revisited $50 area again. Needless to say, that $50 in 70s was much more valuable than the one in 2011 due to inflation. Your talking about the highs, with increased population the highs most likely will be higher and the lows wont be as low... now get off the floor, you look foolish laying there with your feet wiggling about... 
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
586 Posts |
You don't like talking about highs; that's fine, let's talk about lows.
Before 1970s high, the low preceding it was about $2; Before 2011s high, the low preceding it was about $4;
Let's assume another high is coming; heck knows when that will be. The low preceding it, if you draw a trendline, should be about $8. Of course, we can't sit at the low all the time; let's give it a little room say $2.
That will arrive to about $10 per oz. If your population theory is anywhere close to be right, silver price from now, still has 30% downside ahead.
LOL
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
2019 Posts |
Quote: That will arrive to about $10 per oz. If your population theory is anywhere close to be right, silver price from now, still has 30% downside ahead. You might be right but that still wont be the lows of old , as I said I see no reason to stop buying atm. Plus a theory is just that a theory, if production etc stays about the same and demand increases then what else would you expect silver to do? I mean ya aliens could come down and "confiscate" our silver reserves and that would cause silver to go up I suppose. Massive silver deposits could be found in the future and prices could drop. Anything is possible I guess.
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Valued Member
United States
52 Posts |
The prices are absolutely going to go lower - for paper. I don't get how basing prices on charts that have no limit to the quantity of supply of an item makes sense. if I can just simply write a paper certificate for silver on a napkin at a bar, hand it to you in exchange for $14, and you buy it, how's that actually holding any real value to silver? There has to be a point when enough people holding physical silver just plain out refuse to sell at these prices (like the premiums over spot price we see).
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Pillar of the Community
United States
669 Posts |
I also think it's lower because of the fact there's so much "paper silver" out there, but how much physical silver is backing those certificates (I doubt much, if any. Just like our actual currency). Want to see the price of silver skyrocket? Put a reserve requirement on each certificate and watch the firms scramble to get inventory in order to meet reserve requirements.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
586 Posts |
Update to the Silver weekly chart:
Still inside the downtrend channel; All major moving averages firmly down; Price struggling at the double-top-neckline; Recently Silver weekly futures report showed Commercial traders built up short position.
In summary, it is not an IF, but WHEN silver will break down to US$12 area. The earliest possibility is next week's FOMC meeting.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
586 Posts |
WOW, another waterfall. Silver could hit $13 next week on FOMC if there is a rate hike. 
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
3049 Posts |
mrpapageorgio: that's exactly what happened and was the cause of the spike only 4 years ago....
It was then required that certain companies that were offereing silver "paper" they also had to hold a certain ratio in holdings in case a large percentage wanted their payout in product.
They NEEDED the physical product... it drove the price up near $40/oz... they have their stores of it now.. the price is going back to where it was before.... no big surprise...
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4333 Posts |
Great. Expect higher premiums.
When I listen to LED ZEPPELIN...so do my neighbors... Roll hunting since '77 Dirt fishing since '72
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
586 Posts |
Silver spot might have a dip and bounce, during and after FOMC's two-day meeting. Here is the reasoning, I expect a rate hike announcement; and of course Silver will drop sharply; right after that people realize there won't be any more rate hike for quite some time, then they rush in to cover their short position; hence the bounce.
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