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g048406 Pillar of the Community 861 Posts	Posted 09/05/2015 7:16 pm After researching this coin, here's what I found out...... 1. That is a SCRATCH on the obverse and NOT a die crack. Compare to any 1798 S-170 and NONE have this same scratch....here is another S-170 die state IV with absolutely no signs of that long obverse rim scratch at 4-6 O'Clock: http://coins.ha.com/itm/large-cents...tion-071515# 2. I knew I had seen this coin before and sure enough, this coin was from the Mervis collection and sold for $1,028.13 on Jan 10, 2014 as NGC-AU details Burnished: http://coins.ha.com/itm/large-cents...tion-071515# IF I were you, I would try and get my money back on this. Report this Post to the Staff
vermontensium Moderator United States 16679 Posts	Posted 09/05/2015 7:49 pm It looks like a raised line to me therefore, I have to say die crack as well. If you look close, it goes from rim to rim almost as if a Retained Cud. swcoin.ecrater.com Report this Post to the Staff
g048406 Pillar of the Community 861 Posts	Posted 09/05/2015 7:53 pm definately 100% a scratch Report this Post to the Staff
vermontensium Moderator United States 16679 Posts	Posted 09/05/2015 7:56 pm The "scratch" stops at each ribbon device and continues. Zoom in close on that burnished Coin. swcoin.ecrater.com Report this Post to the Staff
g048406 Pillar of the Community 861 Posts	Posted 09/05/2015 8:04 pm If you can show me even 1 other 1798 S-170 die state IV with that same "die crack" than I will agree. I am 100% certain it is a scratch. Report this Post to the Staff
732amran Valued Member United States 297 Posts	Posted 09/05/2015 8:07 pm g048- is correct its a scratch--- but a very fine one at that. I just wonder when I do receive the coin what the real deal is ? Yes iv seen the spotting and slight pittings here en there--. I just wonder about the Burnished comment --A bit harsh I think and I did see the picture taken of back then--looks really bad. So Illl receive the coin and see for my self whats up--. I'm still not shelling $5,000. or more here yet Report this Post to the Staff
vermontensium Moderator United States 16679 Posts	Posted 09/05/2015 8:09 pm Not sure if this is die state IV but: http://www.ebay.com/itm/281493575001?ru=http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html%3F_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=281493575001&_rdc=1 This Coin has the exact same scratch. swcoin.ecrater.com Report this Post to the Staff
edweather Pillar of the Community United States 7375 Posts	Posted 09/05/2015 8:10 pm I don't have a dog in this hunt, but fwiw, the line on the left side of the obverse that crosses the hair ribbon, is a crack. The fine line at 4 o'clock to 6 o'clock on the obverse rim is a scratch. Report this Post to the Staff
vermontensium Moderator United States 16679 Posts	Posted 09/05/2015 8:14 pm OK, I wasn't even looking at 4 to 6. Let me check that out. OK, it's so hairline without a loupe I can't tell from a picture. swcoin.ecrater.com Report this Post to the Staff
732amran Valued Member United States 297 Posts	Posted 09/05/2015 8:15 pm Is it a Crack or a Quack ----- love all the heated debates here---yeeehaaaa ! Report this Post to the Staff
g048406 Pillar of the Community 861 Posts	Posted 09/05/2015 8:19 pm Thank you ed.....I think we can now all agree that there is a "scratch" at 4 O'Clock to 6 O'Clock on the obverse rim.......... I would also be really scared of Heritage's description of this coin, "Cleaned and retoned with glossy high-points that may have been carefully smoothed." http://coins.ha.com/itm/large-cents...tion-071515# Report this Post to the Staff
vermontensium Moderator United States 16679 Posts	Posted 09/05/2015 8:23 pm And here I thought we were looking at the die crack and not 4-6 o'clock. I'm out. Sitting on fence now. swcoin.ecrater.com Report this Post to the Staff
732amran Valued Member United States 297 Posts	Posted 09/05/2015 8:26 pm Ok so--------- a net grade to XF40 is still $2100 Report this Post to the Staff
732amran Valued Member United States 297 Posts	Posted 09/05/2015 8:34 pm Is burnished mean a crippled coin? or it can be a ok at times-- as I wonder if this coin got the ok passing look as not (severe ) just very light minor work to improve ect --just sayin Report this Post to the Staff
g048406 Pillar of the Community 861 Posts	Posted 09/05/2015 8:37 pm most recent ebay sale of an NGC AU details 1798 Cent sold for $818.88, nice looking coin: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1798-Draped...047675.l2557 Report this Post to the Staff
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