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My First Ancient Coin - Yea!!

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 Posted 09/16/2015  1:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jack316 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
FVRIVS - is this the book you're recommending:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-list...tartIndex=50

Thanks, Jack
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 Posted 09/16/2015  10:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The collection and study of Late Roman Bronzes (LRB's) for ancient coins is something analogus the collection and study of Lincoln Wheat Cents (LWC's) for American coins.

You can do a study on the Emperors, and the politics of the late Roman Empire, or equally as well, the study of the mint and officina system of the period.
University degrees have been conferred on scholars who have done this type of study.
I have a copy of a thesis on the coinage of Constantine the Great, done by a scholar from Middle Tennessee State University.

A definitive reference book on the subject was written by Carson, Hill & Kent (British Museum): 'Late Roman Bronze Coinage'. Publ. Spink & Son, my copy a reprint in 1972.
Fairly thin reference book, but should be very reasonably priced, if you are lucky enough to find a copy. Go to a major State library if you wish to locate and inspect a copy, then if you wish to obtain a copy, go to a leading ancient coin dealer to track one down for you.

LRB's can be had in reasonable condition from as little as $5 each.
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 Posted 09/16/2015  11:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jack316 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sel - Thanks for the guidance. The analogy helps put things into perspective. Truth be told, I don't as yet have a "direction." I'm very much like a kid in a candy store, so the lesser expensive coins would be more logical and it seems that means probably, for now, bronze/copper examples.

When I began collecting US coins I began with modern issues and gradually branched out with early 20th century coins. Because I knew that date/mint sets of type coins was not practical financially for me, I approached them by purchasing one or two of several issues. That may be my most prudent approach to ancients as well. Again, thank you sincerely. Jack
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 Posted 09/17/2015  05:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You can find Edward Gibbons "Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire in almost any used book store and as you noticed it is readily available on Amazon.
But if reading it online is something you would rather try it is also available for free !

http://www.ccel.org/g/gibbon/declin...1/chap29.htm
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 Posted 09/18/2015  10:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lrbguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is an adage among the collectors of ancients that is still good advice even in the age of the internet: buy the book, then buy the coin.

Most newbies discover that most Greek coins worth looking at are also way outside their budget. Go for it if you have the time and patience to build a collection at the rate of one coin per month. Few do.

I am going to assume that your adventures in Ancients will start with imperial Roman coins. (Republican denarii are fascinating, but can get pricey too in better grade.)

As a beginner/newbie you are still trying to get the "lay of the land" and that means you need to see things in the "big picture" setting that a one volume catalog of ancient coins can provide even faster than online searches. Catalog sites, like Wildwinds, are a great supplement because of the enormous wealth of images, but with a book you can jump around faster.

Hands down one of the first books I would recommend for you is the 4th revised edition of the book Roman Coins and their Values by David Sear, published by Seaby. It is being updated in a multivolume format, so the single volume is cheaper than it was (used) and better for your purposes anyway.

If you think that learning how to read coin legends and identify a coin by its inscriptions and images is part of the thrill, then a close companion to the catalog is the guidebook by Zander Klawans Reading and Dating Roman Imperial Coins.

Let your imagination soar for a while and don't lock in on any one coin type, even though the lowly late Roman bronzes may be what you buy most often. But since you asked, I want to make one comment on the lot of coins you linked to the list. At the early stages of learning how to read coin inscriptions, you should stick to buying coins with clear details and legible legends. Another aphorism among collectors is: buy the best you can afford. That can be tough to do, but there is a corollary that is often harder to practice - don't buy what you can't decipher. As your skill grows you will be able to read coins that no beginner can handle. But for now, resist the urge to add volume.

That said, collecting by the pictures is a common shortcut way to start. Loads of enjoyment can come from that approach too.

In the end, do what gives you the most satisfaction. And do keep coming to the CCF forum and other online groups. Welcome aboard!
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LRB - Very wise counsel. The grouping of the 4 bronze coins, my most recent purchase, caught my eye because of the designs. I'm anxious to inspect them closely under magnification. The scenes depicted appear to be somewhat violent as in an emperor killing a rival. If I'm right it seems like there might be some interesting research attached. I was further motivated because I recognized the Seller, as one who has offered me help in this very forum (FvrivsRvfvs).

Notice, thus far, I have not purchased a silver example. Following your wisdom, it would be silly for me to make any substantial investment until I know more. The references that you all have given me will keep me busy for some time.

With a grand total of (now) five ancients (all apparently from the same relative time period), I have touched toe to water to the grand sum of less than $20. You are absolutely right. It's time to make an investment in knowledge. Included in that arena is reading the helpful posts that you and the others are providing here. Thanks, most sincerely, Jack
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