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1861 Seated Half Dollar, Nice Color, Grade Vs.ngc?

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 Posted 09/15/2015  11:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks solid for AU-55 detail. There should be significant luster at this level of preservation but that isn't apparent from the photos. Is there a decent level of luster visible when examined in-hand? If not, it may have garnered an "improperly cleaned" label from NGC. They tend to be pretty fussy about cleaning, IMO.
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 Posted 09/15/2015  11:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Will probably not have it in hand until later this week.

This coin is mysterious. Its particular pedigree has a reputation for overgraded coins, but this one Seated Half had a decent certain look to it that I found appealing.

I am not sure why NGC gave it the grade they did; perhaps it's worth a cross to PCGS, or maybe there's something I just can't see behind the toning, which is rather dark.

That being said, I don't think the slab pictures are doing the coin justice at all (you can see they were taken in shadow and very low light) -- I'll take pictures myself when it gets here.

(NGC XF45)

1861-Seated-Half-Dollar,-Nice-Color,-Grade-Vs.ngc?

1861-Seated-Half-Dollar,-Nice-Color,-Grade-Vs.ngc?

Compare it to this 1858 Seated Half from my collection which is also graded XF-45 but by PCGS:

1861-Seated-Half-Dollar,-Nice-Color,-Grade-Vs.ngc?

1861-Seated-Half-Dollar,-Nice-Color,-Grade-Vs.ngc?
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 Posted 09/16/2015  12:10 am  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The dark toning probably hurt the grade. The detail looks AU easily.
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 Posted 09/16/2015  12:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, I was wondering if NGC might have knocked it down from a low AU simply because it's dark.

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