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Awesome Find Or Good Fake? - 1908 Gold Five Dollars Indian Head

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 Posted 10/09/2015  4:10 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add amoeba2315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
im new to this and I tried to research myself but I can really find examples help me figure if this fake.

1908 Gold Five Dollars Indian Head missing the S in pluribus

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10/09/2015 4:15 pm
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 Posted 10/09/2015  6:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MichioKaku to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a Greaser to me...
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The dies are different than others, grease can not cause this, the only way I can explain this is the area was filled with extra gold afterwards, the letter was somehow removed from the die or the hub did not have the s for some reason(I highly doubt this).
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 Posted 10/09/2015  10:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amoeba2315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Darn... I had a hunch it was to good to be true. thanks for input cause I was tempted to buy it.
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 Posted 10/09/2015  10:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks funky to me. Is it even real?
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 Posted 10/10/2015  10:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Look behind the eagles head. Is that a steel colored core I see or a lighting trick
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 Posted 10/10/2015  1:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amoeba2315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thats what I noticed too when I saw in the crevices but since I'm new I didnt know if it was just discoloration due to age. thats why I found this forum cause I knew you guys would dissect it
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 Posted 10/11/2015  1:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks whizzed, heavily polished to my eye. Possibly, this was a jewelry piece?
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 Posted 12/10/2015  05:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add onegast to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
nice American friends,
I am the owner and seller of $ 5 under discussion,
arriving a little late, but I would like to clarify a few things,
the currency is completely original, and has not been tampered with, because she lacked the letter S is a mystery to me,
as regards the gray back of the head of the eagle, they are deposits of dust or dirt.
are different lamps that use, they give me a light perpendicular
to bring out all the flaws, and a light ring to bring out the luster of minting
that's why someone may seem too bright
I think it's still an interesting piece
thanks for your attention
and for the interest
a warm greeting from italy
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 Posted 12/10/2015  09:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome to the CCF, Onegast! Buongiorno!

In my humble opinion, I do strongly believe that this coin has been doctored. The comments and observations of others here tend to support this opinion. Contrary to a few others, I suspect that it's a genuine coin, and perhaps certification would be in order, as a significant percentage of gold coins are counterfeit. I seriously doubt that this coin would receive other that a details grade by any of the top grading companies.

To my eye, this gold piece looks to have been polished. There is significant wear in some areas, being most noticeable on the eagle's wing. There are a few long scratches, too. This adds to my thought that the coin was a jewelry piece and mishandled as such. Then too, it may have been in a bezel at one time. A severe polishing, followed by a "gold washing" would account for the disappearing "S" in PLURIBUS.
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12/10/2015 09:53 am
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 Posted 12/10/2015  7:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gargriff49 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When ya click on the image and it expands you can see the outline of the S and the crevice along the eagles breast appears to have been tooled down smooth for some reason.
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 Posted 12/10/2015  7:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PawnS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
the currency is completely original, and has not been tampered with


So you've owned this coin since 1908 then?
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 Posted 12/10/2015  10:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHuntingDrew to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Weigh it, exact grams only please.
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 Posted 12/12/2015  3:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add onegast to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
no, it is in my possession since November, purchased in a store numismatics

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 Posted 12/12/2015  3:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add onegast to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
sorry november 2014
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 Posted 12/12/2015  4:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The weight of a "new" one is 8.35g, so it's probably genuine, just slightly worn.
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