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What does the forum think of this coin?

the guy who inherited coins sure sells a lot of peace and morgans on ebay.

I wish to retract my previous statement.. or perhaps just clarify my position here a little bit better.

There's a variety of options here:

1) This individual could very well be buying counterfiets from another source and selling them on e-bay.... some how not knowing what they were doing was wrong?!>>!
2) This person knows the coins are counterfiet and is seeing how well they would be against a group of collectors.
3) This person was completely unaware that the coins were counterfiet in anyway...
4) This could very well have been the maker of said counterfiet coins.

The main point I wanted to get across was that this individual who is very new to our community comes on here and posts questions about the coins... the coins themselves are questionable, and within a very short period of time we also indicate many of the markers on the coins which are suspect.

While I believe that identifying the markers and stating them can be an excellent teaching tool .. I also wonder if we aren't giving the makers of said counterfiet coins the information to make "better fakes"

Just throwing this out there but perhaps if someone with a relatively low post count (who hasn't been a part of our community for awhile yet) starts putting up pictures of fake coins... it might be prudent to restrict the details of analysis on that person's very own thread.

Part of me doesn't even like the idea as it comes across as a bit "elitist" but there's a part of me that thinks information is key to staying on top of this problem and we should be wary of ways we dole out information to potential crooks.

Reading the OP's last reply, I'm inclined to believe that he/she doesn't want to believe the coins are fake. The Peace dollar has rasied a very interesting point. There's some here that have said it's legit. Others say it's fake. Some have said because of the lot it's with it's probably a fake. We now know this person sells the coins on ebay. Do you think this person will lump all of these coins together in one lot? Or even sell them in the same time frame? It's probably unlikely.

Just my thoughts... on this issue... sorry for the rant... and I appologize about any accusitory statments made in this post or any prior.. but the behaviour pattern has my suspicions on high alert..

This seller has sold hundreds of Morgan dollars and Peace dollars over the past six months. The seller sells the coins in the $20 range. From what I could see from his completed sales he has not gone for the big dollars. Here is one that is clearly a fake that sold about 6 weeks ago. I have a strong feeling that the seller was testing the waters on some of his future counterfeit product by posting on this site.

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In reply to the 1923 Peace posted above, here are several examples from the no-no site. Look at the shape of the 3. Completely different.

@debrajc, the Panda cert is legit. http://www.pcgs.com/cert/28347730.

Everybody hates counterfeits, and sometimes I think people on this forum get out the torches and pitchforks way too easily. Why on earth would a counterfeiter "test the waters" on a coin forum filled with experts, and use the same username as their ebay seller id? Nobody is that stupid. If those Peace dollar lots are all fake, somebody please explain how and why they all have different wear, luster, toning, bag marks, fingerprints, sneeze dots, rim damage, crud, etc. Maybe the OP got a bunch of coins and just posted the ones here that they weren't sure about?

I went to the guy's ebay and he has pretty good feedback scores... when I see someone with feedback like his I would usually trust the product he is selling is real.

Now I am wondering if I might have any fakes lurking in my collection that I don't know about...it shakes my confidence a bit.

We all want to learn, and look clever by pointing out the markers of it being fake, but it is a good point that we do ourselves no favours letting the counterfeiters know what they are doing wrong so that they can fix them.

I don't have a great deal of USA coins, and was thinking of expanding that way in the future, but USA coinage is probably the most heavily faked and this is off-putting to new collectors. As time goes on, and with the advent of 3D printing etc I imagine this is going to hurt all of us pretty badly.

He now is selling an 1893 Morgan that has different tarnish marks than the one he" inherited", but same wear. BIN price $275.