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I mentioned it in passing earlier, then thought about it. An outhouse would explain the depth of your find. Any manner of small trash and coins ended up in them (though the coins are usually small change and very rarely gold or silver). If you went deeper in the spot you found the coin you'd probably find more trash, which would confirm the antiquity of the site. http://jldr.com/ohdigger.htmlJoseph Smith's outhouse in Nauvoo IL has been dug. They found a cracked shaving mug with his name on it. I also looked up Palmyra NY. 3700 people in 1820, more than I expected. Erie Canal. Lots of outhouses. Lots of treasure for treasure hunters to find, then and now. I hope this has been as helpful to you as it was to me. I've read books about Joseph Smith's treasure hunting for the last 50 years, but seeing that bronze statue and your 1806 half eagle helped me visualize what was probably going on in 1820. I know bottle collectors who dig for treasure in old outhouses. Smith was a poor kid that needed a job. His neighbor knew exactly where to find treasure (pretty fresh at that time) and sent him out with a shovel to get it. Talk about starting your life off at the bottom of a stinking hole! "Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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11/21/2015 08:26 am
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My theory is that a great number of coins were melted down at the time to create golden tablets and this discovery coin wasn't needed, so the makers buried the remaining evidence.  |
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Possibly, captainrich. I visualize it a little differently... You're digging for treasure in the bottom of a stinking hole and keeping 25% of what you find in exchange for the location of the next stinking hole. As you're trudging to the next job you see this tidy little hill...what treasure would I find if I dug up there...without impugning any religious aspect of the story it's for sure a more pleasant place to be digging....
You're also living in a area that's being covered regularly by circuit riders and itinerant preachers of all types. A familiar Bible verse might come to mind... "I will lift mine eyes to the hills, from whence cometh my help?"...
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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11/21/2015 09:02 am
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Been debating between the MXT Pro & AT Pro, this is a point for Garrett in the debate ;)
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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Roundness in the pock baby !
Oregon coin geek.....*** GO BEAVS ! ! ! ***
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AT Pro with Nel coils is one great machine- just ordered my Nell Attack coil , will be here Tuesday & I'll be back to the gold coin find ! It's a 15" coil and goes DEEEEP ! Hoping for more great finds, you never know.
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The thread that won't die.  |
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once the pic of the slab is posted mods should lock it
what happened with the 1853 quarter eagle?
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What happened with contacting a TV reporter about the "find of 10 lifetimes"?
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I was the one who messaged Glenn privately and mentioned for him to join CCF and make a thread, hence the reason why this thread even existed in the first place. He posted on facebook about the coin and my eyes blew out of my face. I'm 100% sure it's genuine, and I'm sure his story is real, regardless of the fact. I will bet the 1806 will come back 100% genuine, details maybe. Quote:
Approximately one year ago we dealt with another metal detector find on this site. It was a rare 1901-S quarter that was allegedly found on an old abandoned Overland Trail stage stop outside of Boise, ID. We followed that coin from just after the find, through shopping it to dealers, through grading and finally through auction at GC.
By the way, that was DrTones24k on YouTube, who found that. Brandon ended up selling that coin for roughly $13,000. |
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If CHD vouches for OP that's good enough for me.
Edit: Should this thread get moved to the metal detecting CCF forum?
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis Edited by paralyse
11/21/2015 9:07 pm
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I just found this thread and read the whole thing. I was skeptical, but am starting to believe the story more. I still have my doubts, mainly about the story, but I'm not going to disregard what the OP said. As for the coin, I have little doubt as to its authenticity based on what PCGS said. Once I see a picture of the slab, I will believe 100% that the coin is genuine.
As for the coin's value, I don't think it could bring more than about $4500. Since the location of the find is not confirmable, it doesn't mean anything. Plus, 10 miles from John Smith's home is way different than if it was on his property, whether he may have dug there or not.
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I just found this thread and should have gone to bed a half hour ago!  |
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I'm still on, and I have to get up at a quarter to 5.  |
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OK, just got news the coin grade as-PCGS encapsulated the coin, Cert #28757_ _ _, "1806 $5 Round 6 7X6 Stars" and says "Genuine UNC Details (98 - damage). So, what is the PCGS Certification Number? I assume a gold coin of this value was submitted for PCGS Secure service, so there should be excellent photos of the coin on the PCGS site. "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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