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Why Is NGC A Better Grader Than PCGS?

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I just bought two silver Peace dollars graded by PCGS and they take a sorry second to NGC but command a higher price? I am strictly NGC from now one.
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 Posted 01/26/2008  10:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
NGC is only a "better grader" than PCGS if your own personal experience with a really small sample of their work makes you think so. Averaged over the thousands of coins each company grades, they're very similar in their grading. Just as many people exist whose impression is the opposite of yours; again, it's based on a very limited exposure.

For whatever reason, maybe just because they got there first or their publicists are better, PCGS is perceived in the marketplace as the slab which holds value better over time. That impression is changing - the gap is narrowing - but if you look at 5,000 slabs from each company, there really isn't a whole lot of difference.

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You are trying to take one example and making a big assumption. If that is the case, why not say all McDonald's fries are cold and stale because I had one for lunch yesterday.
PCGS is the premier TPG. Look at Greysheet. An PCGS MS64 is worth more than a MS64 from NGC.
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SuperDave is right on! The grading service can make a sizable difference in the perceived value of graded coins...PCGS...NGC...ANACS and then all the rest!
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One crazy =dicrepancy is MS70 Silver Eagle Proofs. NGC rolls them out in bulk while PCGS rarely Assigns PF70 to same coin. No one ever gets PCGS money for NGC 70 Eagles.
I happen to use NGC because I can ride my bike from my house.
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 Posted 01/26/2008  7:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CuprousCoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The TPG grading game is as solid as jello on a warm summer day. I personally have coins graded from PCGS, NGC, ANACS and ICG and they all seem to counter my opinion of grading logic. Most of the time they under-grade to shore up their reputations and quite often they over-grade to allow for "what the market will bear". Hard lessons learned aside, I am a collector not an investor, so I am in this for the long haul and will " buy the coin, Not the slab ". Historically speaking quality coins never go out of style and therefore a truly discerning eye will never fail.
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Buy the coin, not the name on the holder ;)
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Quote:
Buy the coin, not the name on the holder ;)
Agreed!
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I agree with "buy the coin...", but they are a lot easier to sell when graded by PCGS or NGC.
( I've never sold an ANACS slabbed coin so I don't know )
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There are overgraded and undergraded coins in both TPG holders. Neither one is "better" than the other, but PCGS has been known to be tighter in giving out the 70 grade for modern coins.
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PCGS has the reputation as being the toughest graders out there, and overall I wouldn't argue that. It goes both ways, though. I love dmpl Morgans, and pcgs is by far the strictest with that designation. On the other hand, getting a Frankie in FBL is much more difficult at ngc.
A nice coin will stand by itself regardless of the plastic it's in, but whether we like it or not, that same coins value goes up a little if that plastic happens to be pcgs.
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I'd like to see a company give a complete breakdown of what things, on a coin, take it from an MS70 to the final grade!

Maybe I should start my own company, I'd provide that service! Plus I take some amazing flaw revealing photos!
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01/28/2008 02:10 am
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Nelrak... your ideas have been stolen by the dozen or so self-slabbers on ebay already :)
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I'd like to see a company give a complete breakdown of what things, on a coin, take it from an MS70 to the final grade!

If I remember correctly, accugrade did something like that right on the holder..........of course, they had their very own grading standards too!

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