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 Posted 01/16/2016  7:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
mcshilling thank you. here is a American penny. with this new setup with lights.

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 Posted 01/17/2016  12:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wanted to try this lens to see what I would get. I never moved the light system from where it was set for the macro lens. I mounted the Vivitar Series 1 90-180mm f/4.5 set the f stop to f11 here is the image.

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 Posted 01/17/2016  9:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pepactonius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That first 1970 cent photo looks pretty good to me.
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 Posted 01/20/2016  10:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
pepactonius thank you that was taken using a single ottlite like kanga. I like the Sony camera it is so easy to use. I will be glad when lightroom is going to add it to there tethering a little later this year. they have most of the Sony alpha series right now except for the Sony A&Rmark II. they have said it will be added very soon.
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 Posted 01/21/2016  7:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
after building this white box just to reflect light. I have been reading darth morgans thread. I purchased one of these sanoto white boxes. there are couple of different things. I want to try with this box. I am going to see what the Sony will do with and enlarger lens attached to it. I also want to see what the Sony will do with a macros lens attached. I also purchased a leitz wetzar colorplan cf 2.5/90mm. I have found a different style of ottlite. I think it will work very well in this white box. this light also products natural day light. when I get every thing together. I will give it go. I will post the results here. have a great one
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 Posted 01/22/2016  05:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add austrokiwi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
welcome to the A7rII owners club. Interesting reading your thread. I like the photos you have produced here which are all impressive.
a suggestion with a $3000.00+ camera I think you can squeak out a little more performance than what you are seeing with your current enlarger lenses. My experience has been the APO Enlarger lenses ( the Rodenstock 90mm F4 and the Schnieder Kreuznach APO Componon HM 4/45) produce result equal to the Sony FE 90mm F 2.8 macro and the printing Nikkor 105mm F 2.8( both these later lenses out resolve the Sony's sensor). A point to note those APO enlarger lenses are not true APO lenses but they do heaps better than the standard enlarger lenses.

They are not cheap ( usual price range is US$200.00 -US$400.00. But they are substantially cheaper than the Sony FE 90mm (US$1100) and the Printing Nikkor 105mm (US$1300-$2500) for the same results. That said... I would note the 45mm SK is a challenging lens as its close working distance limits lighting options so I think the 90mm version( very expensive new) would be much more suitable.

I have posted an interesting lighting option I "found" on the ANA web site. It was very cheap ( but you need to find an un-serviceable ring light for the mount)And as you can see in the ANA post it handles slabs very well https://www.money.org/my-ana/viewpost/2993

On the exposure side The Sony A7rII underexposes by 0.3 EV You can adjust it in the camera menu ( camera sign) 4 set of options. I haven't adjusted it on my camera I just use the EV dial. As the camera is effectively noiseless up to ISO 800. You can take coin pictures in much darker lighting environments. In normal photography I love the fact I can manual focus at night when a canon or Nikon has to auto focus( because you can't see anything)
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 Posted 01/22/2016  06:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
austrokiwi thank you I have learned a lot from you. I am just scratching the surface of this sony camera. I have a lot to learn about it. I am waiting for lightroom to add tethering for this unit. but austrokiwi the canon I just purchased it to know has the back lite sencor. so it performs very well in low light. I really like the sony it is very easy to use right out of the box. I hope you don't mind but I will have some question for you every so often. again thank you. austrokiwi you like ray have done so much here you guys are the leaders and a few more members as well. I have a light cube coming as well. I want to see different ways to light various coins.
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 Posted 01/22/2016  07:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add austrokiwi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi no worries: Ask away or PM me. You are keeping the Sony?

I just got back from the dog walk... And thought I missed some points. You may have noticed you can install separately purchased apps on the Sony. I have installed a number( I had purchased most of them for the Sony A7r) the two that are the most useful are "Touchless shutter" and "Lens Compensation" The "touchless shutter" is nice to have if you are travelling and forget the remote shutter release and don't want to use your smart phone( I get sick of all the photos being automatically downloaded from the camera to the phone when I use the phone as a remote release)

The touch-less shutter when activated is great. You just wave your hand over the View finder and the camera takes a picture. obviously you use the rear screen for composing and focusing.

Even more useful is the lens compensation app. With it you can programme in different lens profiles enabling the camera to adjust for Distortion and CA. I use a lot of Legacy lenses in every day photography so that app allows the camera to automatically correct for each lenses faults. I haven't tried it for macro yet but I suspect it would be useful.

Can you tell me what the Olympus 80mm is like( I assume its the Bellows lens) I have the 135mm and it is brilliant on the A7rii
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 Posted 01/22/2016  08:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ham1947 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
austrokiwi, I am not able to find the "lighting option" via the website you give.
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 Posted 01/22/2016  08:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add austrokiwi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I will post it in this forum later to day
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 Posted 01/23/2016  6:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ok austrokiwi I set the camera back to 0 from -.3. I found a 3 ottlites that are designed. that I will be able to stick them right in side the sanoto light box. so see what I get with them. as soon as every thing is here. I will post some pictures. have a great one
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 Posted 01/24/2016  8:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am a little closer to getting rid of the reflection of my smile director. lined the hole thing with reflective paper. the toonie is going to be a metal to shoot. I can not wait to try this in the light box.

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 Posted 02/26/2016  3:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add austrokiwi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have just got a decent laptop( 64 bit system) with 8 MB ram. I have just started using capture one for sony( free for a month) and so far its been a winner( for processing raw files) Unless I find something very wrong I will be up grading to the pro-version ( for Sony). It only costs US$50.00. the pro version, for the Sony A7rii, has full tethering( with live view) I would have tried it much earlier but my note book and PC were only 32 bit systems and lacked the required ram.
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 Posted 02/26/2016  7:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
austrokiwi tried it already worked 4 day and crashed. I can not get it to open in liveview. the other thing it saves your images in some weird format. that windows 8 does not recognize. so if you get it to I will try it again. just let me know how you make out using it. after a couple of weeks. there is now way to contact any body in there support system. I have tried I like the Sony camera. you would think. they would have there own tethering program. I have read that lightroom will have it added shortly. to there tethering program. hope you have good luck with it.
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 Posted 02/26/2016  10:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add austrokiwi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the warning on the program. I will continue trying it may be that if it happens again I will be able to report the cause.

Sony were taken by surprise with the success of the A7 line(some reports have it that they were close to abandoning the camera market) They did design a tethering system..... but not for a DSLR market... they went for a younger audience and set up the Tethering infrastructure for an android environment( making the cameras compatible with their phones and tablets)

Edit: I am intrigued by your problems so I photographed a coin in compressed raw(12 bit instead of 14) played with the pictures in capture one express. I then exported them as Jpegs and finished editing in Photoshop elements. As with my previous experiences there were no problems. ( note the photos will look soft; the coin is part of the NZ 2000 uncirc set as it is a very rare set I photographed through the plastic



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