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Dear Collectors, I really need your help to identify 2 ancient coins.Please help me. Thank you in advance. Best regards, John     |
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Pillar of the Community
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The second coin looks like a Spanish cob, but I don't think the lettering is in the right places. And it seems too well fit in its triangular shape for an actual cob (also, I think I'm seeing a dotted border at the edges, which really has no place in any realistic cob). So probably some kind of modern tourist copy.
Literally no idea what the first one could be (that spiral looks interesting, but doesn't seem particularly similar to anything that could be pictured on an actual coin of any place). Maybe some weird modern fantasy.
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Pillar of the Community
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 Something is fishy about that triangular piece. I do see "PIVS Ec(B)" which should not be arranged as such on 1/8 of a cob coin (which were not designed to be split; the cross just left a good guideline to cut along). I am also seeing what looks like a figure perched on a bone, with something that looks like Mayan hieroglyphs beneath. If that is correct, this is probably some strange tourist item. The first coin however I believe may possibly be genuine. The spiral I believe is a countermark; frequently used in ancient times to certify or revalue well-circulated coins, or foreign coins that entered a kingdom from abroad. I believe the countermark is placed on a bearded, laureate portrait facing left, and another portrait is on the other side. What are the size and weight of this coin? That can help narrow down and possibly identify it. |
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Something is fishy about that triangular piece. I do see "PIVS Ec(B)" which should not be arranged as such on 1/8 of a cob coin (which were not designed to be split; the cross just left a good guideline to cut along). I am also seeing what looks like a figure perched on a bone, with something that looks like Mayan hieroglyphs beneath. If that is correct, this is probably some strange tourist item. The "figure" and "hieroglyphs" are probably a lion and a castle, respectively, just warped by the triangular shape (as if they were squashed to fit in the triangle). I'm seeing PLVS E and 95 backwards as legend, but IIRC they shouldn't be arranged like that either. |
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...the first one could be...some weird modern fantasy. |
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Thank you for your answers.
Highly appreciate it!A friend of mine has the coins and we were so courios to know more about this items.
The weight of first item is 20,80 gramms,diameter could be 1,8-2,2 cm I cannot say it exactly because I forgot to measure it and cannot have it in my hand at the moment.
The second one weight 6,6 gramms and approx. it's radius is 1,4 -1,5 cm
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Found a short article about the spiral countermark on the first coin (I think): http://www.forumancientcoins.com/bo...77497.0;wap2I had a suspicion that this was a countermark depicting an ammonite--they were among the first fossils to be found, and held religious connotations due to their similarity to ram's horns. I tried a couple databases but couldn't find a match in the size and weight ranges you gave--a 20.8g coin should be much larger, or else it would be extremely thick. I suspect the two busts may be Zeus and Dionysus? Zeus and the issuing ruler? Might take some research. |
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