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Fifty Cent Varieties - 1943

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 Posted 02/15/2017  9:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Canada67 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is one of my 1943 fifty cent pieces. The picture isn't the best but there are a couple of die cracks, one by the date and one behind the hoof. There is also a die clash next to the spear on the left.




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 Posted 02/16/2017  05:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Now I'm not trying to hijack this thread, but questions have arisen. The orange (sometimes red) shirt started back nearly 20 years ago when the old CCRS site began. There were a bunch (5-6)of us collectors who decided to try to meet for the first time (we were from all corners of the earth) at the Torex when it was downtown on the waterfront (the Radison?). Living locally, I said that I'd wear an orange shirt so the other faceless folks would know what to look for. As more members joined CCRS, a few more folks would make the journey to Toronto and we'd all meet for show and tell and beers. Our meetings got so popular that the owner of the CCRS site (and the Torex owner) made up ID badges for us all to wear with our names and CCRS handles and our meeting group swelled to 10-12. I've carried the orange shirt tradition forward once CCRS died and people sought out their own forums. Except for the Toronto Coin Expo twice a year, out old gang seldom gets to meet any more.
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 Posted 02/16/2017  08:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pginrh to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Canada67.... looks like an early Zoell FL444u....it gets so pronounced in later die states that it becomes a retained broken die.It is one of the more common ones and can be readily found in various die states
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 Posted 02/16/2017  10:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oldmike to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice story okiecoiner thanks for sharing
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 Posted 02/16/2017  10:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pginrh to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oldmike.... Zoell referrred to your coin as having a bell hammer combination of die crack and die chip.. FL444fo
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 Posted 02/16/2017  10:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pginrh to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Collector67... I have no idea what is on your coin. Probably lacquer as you state.
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 Posted 02/16/2017  11:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oldmike to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Paul, I should have started this 35+ years ago when my wife received these from her fathers estate.
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 Posted 02/16/2017  3:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wildflowerAB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a few more example of varieties you might find in the pursuit of 1943 50c.

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This is a good example of quite a narrow date. Also notice the "3" is placed quite high. It's also a Flat-back "9", where a slight bit of the back of the "9" has been removed, giving a straighter appearance.
Zoell R444g
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You will notice a very deep die crack though the "3" to the hoof. Another (not in photo) runs from the TS in "cents to the Unicorns's flagpole.
Zoell FL444j
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An obvious diecrack running from the Kings neck to the rim on the obverse side of the above. There's another diecrack from the rim to the "I" but a clear photo of both surpasses my frustration limit. Zoell L444c
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Really cool but easy to pass by. Peeled Chrome Plating,
Zoell E444n.
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Same '43, obverse of above.
Diechip and diecrack - literally described as V-I-blob-rim, rim-D (the rim-D is not too visible in this photo.)
Zoell EFL444q
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Now I'm not trying to hijack this thread, but questions have arisen. The orange (sometimes red) shirt started back nearly 20 years ago when the old CCRS site began. There were a bunch (5-6)of us collectors who decided to try to meet for the first time (we were from all corners of the earth) at the Torex when it was downtown on the waterfront (the Radison?). Living locally, I said that I'd wear an orange shirt so the other faceless folks would know what to look for. As more members joined CCRS, a few more folks would make the journey to Toronto and we'd all meet for show and tell and beers. Our meetings got so popular that the owner of the CCRS site (and the Torex owner) made up ID badges for us all to wear with our names and CCRS handles and our meeting group swelled to 10-12. I've carried the orange shirt tradition forward once CCRS died and people sought out their own forums. Except for the Toronto Coin Expo twice a year, out old gang seldom gets to meet any more.


Okiecoiner, I think that's a terrific story!

And by the way, where's any interesting 1943 50c you might like to share with us?
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One last 1943 from me. Anyone else, feel free..

This one is a typical narrow date variety but I'm a sucker for toned coins. And yes the toning is blotchy but what was a total surprise that I found out after buying it, the silver is absolutely brilliant, appearing to be from a new chrome die. An array of silver, rust and dark brown colours, to my eye looks as a antique 50c should.

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 Posted 02/16/2017  6:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oldmike to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice wildflowerAB, Is that a partial clash on the E444n
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 Posted 02/16/2017  9:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pginrh to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Torgemco:The only characteristic that I can see in this coin is that it is a narrow date with no other anomalies visible.
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thank you
very much
pginrh
would you think this
example reaches ef40..?
or more likely..vf 20
tia
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Nice wildflowerAB, Is that a partial clash on the E444n


Thanks and very good eye oldmike. Yes its a partial clash, nothing on the other half.
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