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Split Planchet Do You Think It Is Fake?

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i am going to show a couple of pics of this split planchet penny,take a look
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No photos posted yet. FYI.
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That looks like a zinc cent. I don't believe zinc plated cents have split planchets/laminations since they are not a mix of metals.
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The reverse has a thick coating build up of some kind and the image is not full detail,and on the obverse side there is no image and it looks like it was split smooth and it doesn't have that luster on the obverse.but it came from an uncirculated shot gun roll so I know it is from the mint
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Not sure on your item. It's not what I expect from a split planche wheather it were split before or after strike. Here is a pic of one of both from my collection . One a Lincoln Cent that was split before strike and the other a Buffalo nickel that split after strike. Note the striations of the metal that are present from the split.

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The obverse of your coin was effaced via sanding or grinding(concentric lines in brighter colored area). It appears to be mostly smooth and does not display the metal grain typically seen on laminations and planchet splits. I am not so sure the silver color is exposed zinc, it does not fit the design of Lincoln's bust. It may be some sort of surface contaminant while the reverse appears to have been harshly cleaned or gold plated as the color is unnaturally bright and shiny.
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Well I don't see the mint doing all that as I said it came from an uncirculated shot gun roll,by looking at the reverse any one can see the image does not have strong detail like other penny reverses have you can't fake that not to mention I did not buy it I found it in an uncirculated shot gun roll and I don't see that the mint is going to gold plate it.this just proved my point from another post I did that people will line up to say something isn't real,now if it isn't a split planchet what would you call it or how did it happen at the mint,and the thick coating build up is clear like some kind of lacquer or adhesive not to mention if you ground the obverse side it shouldn't have any copper color and I would think it would be ruff,i mean as small as a coin is to hold it tight with pliers in order to grind it would leave some type of indent I would imagine.
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There are plenty of ways to hold that coin without damaging it in order to sand it
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Thank you for bringing up the silver color bio,i haven't pulled my eye piece out and looked at this coin for many years,but I just did and it looks like nickel not zinc so could this be wrong planchet like a dime planchet, that would be even better.
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Still the point is why would the mint do it,why would they sand a coin not to mention the obverse has a matte look to it,wouldn't sanding leave scratch marks I am just guessing I have done restoration work on wood so I know how wood looks,but I never have sanded a coin but still would think it wouldn't leave a matte surface look,not to mention the reverse of the coin how would you get that look please let me know,because I am not a master at coin altering,and still the main point is why would the mint do it.
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Looks like some of the gold plating on the obverse as well (or what was the obverse).
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As I mentioned, it's a zinc cent. The silver color is zinc underneath the copper plating. What year was the uncirculated roll you bought?
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I got it years ago in the 90s I know it had to be 93 or after because of the AM in america I never thought to write it down I just put in a holder.like for the past 15 years I have been going to foodlion to get my penny rolls,but you have to go to places like that as soon as they hand you the new pennies in your change I always buy a few rolls.i will open 2 and keep one.they are shot gun rolls and they have loomis written on them.
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In the 90s I was living in a city in Indiana and there was a bank I used to go and get my rolls from but I don't remember the banks name it has been so long,i never thought to write everything down at the time that it would come up in a discussion later in life,just one of them things live and learn.
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Unless your roll was wrapped in the special wrappers used by the mint for collectors the roll your item came from did not come directly from the mint. It came from a third party service. I have some rolls of 2000 dated cents in the clear plastic fed wrappers of the time that show the edge of a older brown coin here and there.
Odd items can and do get into unc. rolls
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