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Morgan 1894 P Fake?

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 Posted 02/10/2016  04:20 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add lux73 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Could you please give me your opinion on this 1894 P Morgan dollar. Do you think this is fake coin?

Here are the pics:

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 Posted 02/10/2016  08:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Could you post a close up photo of the date area?
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 Posted 02/10/2016  08:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is only 1 set of business strike dies and the date position looks correct. Compare to the close up photos for the small die markers. (I think I see the die marker next to the eagle's left foot.) http://www.vamworld.com/1894-P+VAM-3
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 Posted 02/10/2016  09:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not seeing anything that raises any flags. If you can weigh it and do a ring test on it that would help authenticate it, too.

As IndianGoldEagle requested, a close up of the date area would be a big help, too.
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 Posted 02/10/2016  10:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is one thing that appears strange to me as there is a circular mark between the D and O in the mint mark area. A lot of 1894 counterfeits had the S or O mint mark removed.
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 Posted 02/10/2016  10:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lux73 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Have only these 2 pics and looking to buy this coin.
I just cropped the date from the image file but don't know if this could help.



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 Posted 02/10/2016  11:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lux73 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here are other 2 pics cropped from original pics

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 Posted 02/10/2016  11:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lux73 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just looking for other die markers of vam-3 and noted this

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 Posted 02/10/2016  11:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The die polish line inside the Y is certainly spot on but the line outside the LIBERTY band is not present on the VAM 3 plate photos so I'm not sure what to think about that. I would really like to see a good close up photo of I.G.W.T. on the reverse to confirm the doubling.
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 Posted 02/10/2016  11:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lux73 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
About the the die polish line in Y I noted that too. the one that is outside isn't on VAM 3 additional pics

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 Posted 02/10/2016  12:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Unfortunately, that reverse photo is over-exposed right where the doubling should be.
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 Posted 02/11/2016  4:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lux73 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here are some other pics but really don't know if these helps.

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