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 Posted 02/22/2016  06:27 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add planetparty to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
My friend cloud not resist and purchased 3 (Greek?) coins. I consider myself also for a beginner and I am more "specialized" to Roman coins, since I want to collect them.

I have him strongly advised not to buy that coins, and am pretty sure 2 of them are fakes. Want to hear your opinions and comments.



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The first one is supposed to be an Alexander the Great tetradrachm.

The second one is supposed to be an Apollonia Pontika AR Drachm.




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Yes, there are a lot of variants of that Alexander the Great, this sames to be a legit coin, but the second and third one...i don't know... Thant Alexander is in a solid condition.
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the third is a coin of Cappadocia , Ariarathes , there are several kings named A. albert
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I had exactly the opposite initial reaction. The Alexander (drachm, not tetradrachm, based on the size) has an odd raised edge I don't like. The Apollonia drachm may be okay...nothing screams fake to me, although it is a highly faked type. The Cappadocia issue at bottom (Ariarathes IV?), though porous and pitted, might be okay, imo.
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No Greek coin I ever saw has a lip around the rim, this is a modern occurrence and so I agree with Bob that the Alex drachm is suspect. The second coin too I would not fancy based purely on the quantity of fakes and the last coin looks OK but porosity sometimes indicates casting, the weakness in the lettering might indicate that too and that it is so central on such a big flan seems a happy coincidence; most of these some detail on front or back touches an edge this one seems to have quite a lot of room around it.

The only one I would wager heavily on is the first being wrong, but I wouldn't fancy any of them personally.
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The Alexander drachm is fairly easy to spot as a fake. The Apollonian is a bit more difficult to spot. I suspect good silver was used to make it appear more genuine. As stated earlier this is one one the most copied coins made, so without an experts examination I would suspect this one. On the last coin I don't like the way the edge looks like it has been smooth down, so I would suspect this coin also.
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There is a booming industry in fakes being pedaled on Facebook these days.
I have a friend (novice collector) who keeps bombarding me with pics and asking "what do you think".
I keep responding fake or unsure almost half the time.
I keep asking him why he keeps going back and of course the answer is
"Great prices !"
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