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 Posted 10/30/2005  3:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Alternatively, if you have a scanner, please do scan it at 600dpi. It's just quite difficult to see under low resolution and I cannot manipulate the contrast... I tried. :)
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 Posted 10/30/2005  7:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add national dealer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Metalman
Why is it so hard for people to believe their own eyes ?


Seeing isn't always believing. I did not notice this thread until it popped up again. While the photo appears to give credence to an overdate, photos are 2 dimensional.
Basing an opinion simply on the photo, I would also have to agree that the illusion of the "other" number comes from metal flow. This is not that uncommon.

Without having the coin in hand, this would be my first guess.
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 Posted 10/30/2005  7:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Alternatively, if you have a scanner, please do scan it at 600dpi.


Unless someone has 600 DPI monitor [:0], that won't help. You're still gonna see it at 72 or 96 DPI, whichever your monitor is set at.
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 Posted 10/30/2005  9:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by national dealer

quote:
Originally posted by Metalman
Why is it so hard for people to believe their own eyes ?



Basing an opinion simply on the photo, I would also have to agree that the illusion of the "other" number comes from metal flow. This is not that uncommon.

Without having the coin in hand, this would be my first guess.



Ok !! Metal flow it is then !!

Thanks for all of the comments !!

I appreciate it !!

Rick




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 Posted 10/31/2005  08:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add national dealer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Metalman
Ok !! Metal flow it is then


Rick, if you would like, send this coin to me, and I will spend a little time with it, and if there is any chance of this being something other than metal flow, I will use all of my resources to help you get this attributed.
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 Posted 10/31/2005  8:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add adobero1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think I remember reading once that overpolishing of the die can cause a "ghostlike" image of dates or other devices to appear on the struck coin, because the wires of the polishing brush ( I say brush but maybe they used some fine grit and just rub too hard)cut a little depression (or maybe cause a slight buildup of die metal) off to the side of a digit. This later shows up on the coin. A famous example is the so called poor man's doubled die of the 1955 Lincoln Cent. Unscrupulous dealers will try to pass this off as the true DDO of the '55 Lincoln, but calling it a poorer example. But, in fact, it's not a DD at all, just a result of overpolishing. This coin looks somewhat like that, maybe the more raised dot inside the loop of the 5 is a small die chip?
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 Posted 10/31/2005  10:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgan Fred to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by national dealer

quote:
Originally posted by Metalman
Ok !! Metal flow it is then


Rick, if you would like, send this coin to me, and I will spend a little time with it, and if there is any chance of this being something other than metal flow, I will use all of my resources to help you get this attributed.



Rick, if I were you, I'd take up ND on his offer. I think it's too early to warrant a conclusion and the ramifications of a new variety are too great. At the least, I think an outside professional opinion is justified. Who knows, maybe you could list it on ebay as a new variety and pick up a few thou' for it! [:0] (Now where did my Greed smiley go?)

Fred

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