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PR-70 Grade Dumb. As Long As It Doesn't Have A Huge Scratch It's Fine

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 Posted 05/01/2016  08:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SpaceMaNy0 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All the hullabaloo over 60+ coins makes me love my single digit junk even more. I just like silver.
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 Posted 05/01/2016  09:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jdmern to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I hate general rants against the TPG market. Get with it and learn to navigate it or get out of the way. The hobby will never go back to "the good ole days". Pandora's box was opened in 1986 and you can't put the cat back in the bag


Could not agree more!
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 Posted 05/01/2016  09:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Paola1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not a person that buy cool stuff only cause of its brand .
I buy what I like and what makes me happy , unfortunately coins got the same faking wave as everything else and I don't want to collect a coin that was made on someone's basement .
I'm collecting a piece of history and it's different of buying a pair of shoes that will be gone in few months .
I buy raw coins from trustfull sellers and unfortunately expensive ones we need to buy slabbed or we won't know what we are getting.
I know it's a polemic topic and as all the forums there are different opinions
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 Posted 05/01/2016  10:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KenKat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ah, Mike Mezack.

See, Alvaro, you don't understand. These are the Proof 70 issues, directly from the mint. These are certified, certified as flawless, PR70; flawless by (PCGS/NGC/ANACS). These coins are not available, let me repeat that, not available to the general public. These are the Proof 70 coins. Now, you will see a lot of other networks offering the Proof coins in a 68 or 69 grade, but these aren't those. These are the Proof 70 coins. This is a rare opportunity to obtain the Proof 70 coins so sought after by collectors. And, for a limited time, we will include a red oak box, suitable for storing these rare gems.

Now, how can you resist that?

I think stabbed coins do serve an important purpose and I do occasionally buy stabbed coins (and occasionally crack them out). In terms of authenticity and a professional opinion of grade, they can be very useful. But, it is important to remember (in the style of Mike Mezack) that buying coins in slabs does not relieve the collector - let me repeat, does not relieve the collector - from knowing how to authenticate and grade coins on some level.

And I do think too much weight is given to the exact grade assigned by the TPG's. Is it a 69 or a 70? Who knows? Who cares, really? If you are just collecting slabs based on the writing on the slab, I guess that is fine, but I think most collectors focus on the coin in the slab, or a raw coin, and say "that's a beautiful coin".

If you are a coin collector, I think slabs play a role in the collecting market. But if you are just collecting slabs to avoid the need to become knowledgable about the coins in them, I think you are setting yourself up for disappointment someday.
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I prefer raw also! I have bought slabbed coins for the rare key dates of some series, just to ensure authenticity, but otherwise don't want anything slabbed if I can avoid it. I also bought a PR70 Wash Quarter just to own one, but it was cheap and thought it would be just a fun conversation piece.
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But if you are just collecting slabs to avoid the need to become knowledgable about the coins in them, I think you are setting yourself up for disappointment someday.

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