Use Haxby 1859 Site To Identify Mystery 1859-S - 2

Yes GregJG!! I'll give you a hint about what to look for. It has to do with die states of obverse 77 and 77a.

Check the die state charts for the two obverses in the catalog, and look at the possible die state pairings.

There is an obvious point on the obverse which is visible(or not) even on a well worn coin like this one to differentiate which obverse is paired with P15a.

The answer for #34 (as GregJG correctly posted)is PC59-77a1 (77a+P15a).

The die cracks on the reverse identify P15a as the reverse.

P15a is known to be paired with obverses 77 and 77a.

What is the obvious feature GregJG found in the die state charts and die pairings to be sure of the attribution?

At first I couldn't see any obvious repunching or die cracks...
Tried to go off of the tiny bit of material at the top left of the 9 (looks like the tiniest hint of repunching), no luck there.

Then I noticed a small amount of extra material on the bottom of the E in CENT... no dice

Finally went through the "ID MY COIN" and Looked at Vine Loop #7 - Looks like a Medium Gap (Late)
Next Vine Loop #2 - hard to tell Either group G or H
Finally Found a Die Clog in the D of CANADA (I think)
-> Obv 39a (no group G or H...)
-> Obv 62 (no group G or H...)

Then Went to Leaf 9 Details (in "ID by REV MARKERS") - Group E or P
Reverse E2, E3c, E5, E5b, E27b, E32B, P2, P4 match the shape of Stem of Leaf 9.


Gave up on that, then went to "REV Group Sorting aids" - Sorting Table
Loop 2: Broken
Stem 10: Original
Stem 8: Broken
Stem 9: Repaired
That gives group G or I.....
Back to Stem 9 details that match Group G and I: G2 (Stem not broken) G4 (Stem connects to leaf too high)

By this point I'm going psychotic haha

This doesn't count as a guess. I have no idea but hopefully someone can make something from this info.

Welcome to the wonderful wacky world of 1859's GregJG! I have been on that merry-go-round you've just described many times. Beware of loop 2's that look broken, but are actually partially repaired. You correctly identified the medium gap late on loop 7 which is key.

Don, the G of GRATIA and the stem to leaf 9 will be helpful clues in this one.

Loop 2 detail.




Stem to leaf 9 detail.




Loop 7 detail.




GR of GRATIA detail.

Exactly!! Good work, Don!! That was a little tougher than some of them.

I am going with PC59-36a1

Reverse E37a - I was able to use the die break at leaf 12 & stem at leaf 9. Apparently this reverse has a repunched C & T in cent along with a repunched 9. Was not able to clearly see that in the pictures.

This reverse is paired with 2 obverses and due to the absence of any die breaks, it appears to be obverse 36a.

I could be wrong on this one, but.....

Mystery coin #37. Reverse only to begin.

543 OBV54